[viabono]

Hello,

I noticed the very impressive list of Ferrari VIN numbers listed under the “Models & Registry” tab. Someone from Ferrari Life must have spent a tremendous amount time putting this data together.

I found the VIN for the 550 that I am attempting to purchase which amazed me because I’m fairly certain the owner did not list it there. Is this a complete list of all cars built? I observed occasional number gaps between some of the VINs. Does anyone happen to know why? Are these VINs simply unaccounted for or is their another reason for the gaps?

I tried to do a search under VIN, S/N & SN, but nothing came up.

Thanks,

Robert

 

[Boxer]

Hello,

I noticed the very impressive list of Ferrari VIN numbers listed under the “Models & Registry” tab. Someone from Ferrari Life must have spent a tremendous amount time putting this data together.

I found the VIN for the 550 that I am attempting to purchase which amazed me because I’m fairly certain the owner did not list it there. Is this a complete list of all cars built? I observed occasional number gaps between some of the VINs. Does anyone happen to know why? Are these VINs simply unaccounted for or is their another reason for the gaps?

I tried to do a search under VIN, S/N & SN, but nothing came up.

Thanks,

Robert

The gaps are most likely because the cars bearing those SNs simply have not been publically identified. If you PM me the SN# I will check a couple of sources and see what I can turn up.

 

[viabono]

Thank you for your reply Boxer. My questions were mostly for my own education. Does Ferrari also use various country and date codes like other manufacturers? For example, is there someway to identify cars destined for the U.S. market?

 

[Andrew]

Robert,

No all the VINs are in the system (yet). It has taken me about 5 years to get over 10,000+ in the system. I am working on a improved version and will comb through the existing data before adding more.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[JazzyO]

You know, I've never even looked at that section of FerrariLife. Looks very well organised! I spotted my 550's serial number, I'll send you a PM with update info Andrew.


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[Boxer]

Thank you for your reply Boxer. My questions were mostly for my own education. Does Ferrari also use various country and date codes like other manufacturers? For example, is there someway to identify cars destined for the U.S. market?

Yes, here is a general decoder that I have collected from assorted sources, I will also put it in a thread in the Registry section to make it easier to find.

The 1st digit Z = Italy
The 2nd digit identifies the badge. F = Ferrari
The 3rd digit identifies the manufacturer. F = Ferrari
The 4th digit identifies the engine.
A = 308 2-valve injected USA
A = Testarossa European
A = 612 Scaglietti
B = 308 2-valve carb wet sump Euro
B = 408 prototype
B = 575M Maranello
C = 308 2-valve carb dry sump Euro
C = 328 Swiss w/catalyst 1987-1989
C = Enzo Ferrari
D = 512 BB
D = Challenge Stradale
E = 400i
E = PPG prototype
F = 308 2-valve carb Australia
F = 348 USA 1989-1990
G = 308 2-valve carb USA & Japan
G = F40 Euro
H = 308 2-valve injected Euro
I = Not used
J = 512 BBi
K = 208 Turbocharged
K = 348 Euro early
L = 308 QV Euro
L = 512 TR
M = 308 QV USA 1983
M = F40 USA
N = 308 2-valve injected Australia
O = Not used
P = 288 GTO
P = 355 w/Motronic 2.7
Q = Not used
R = 308 QV Australian
R = 348 USA
S = Testarossa USA & Japan
S = 456 w/Motronic 2.7
T = Testarossa
T = F50
U = 308 QV USA 1984-1985
U = 348 Euro late
V = F512 M
W = 328 Euro
W = 456M w/Motronic 5.2
X = 328 USA & Japan
X = 355 w/Motronic 5.2
Y = 412
Y = 360
Z = 550
The 5th digit is used for seatbelts/airbag system
A = 3-point inertia belts with auto retractors for front
B = 3-point inertia belts with auto retractors for front plus 3-point non-inertia belts for rear
C = 3-point inertia belts with auto retractors for front plus 2-point inertia belts for rear
D = 3-point inertia belts with auto retractors for front plus 3-point inertia belts for rear
E = Seen on some 2+2 for Australian market; no airbag?
G = Passive restraint system (Active belts with manual lap belts)
J = Seen on Euro F40
K = Seen on >1990 Mondial T Cabriolet US versions
L = Air bags, manual seat belts plus UCRA* in the rear seats
M = Passive restraint system (Canada)
N = Automatic passive restraint system
P = Air bags with 3-point inertia belts for front and inertia belts for rear
R = Air bags, manual seat belts and force limiter
S = Air bags, manual seat belts plus UCRA*
T = Air bags, manual seat belts with pretensioners
U = Air bags, manual seat belts with pretensioners plus UCRA*
V = Air bags, manual seat belts with pretensioners and force limiter plus UCRA*
W = Air bags, manual seat belts and force limiter plus UCRA*
X = Seen on racecars and prototypes
Y = Seen on Euro 612 Scaglietti
Z = Seen on Euro Enzo Ferrari
* UCRA = Universal Child Restraint Anchorage system
The 6th & 7th digit identify to specific model
01 = 308 GT4 (ZDF)
01 = 308 GTBi (ZFF)
02 = 308 GTSi
03 = 308 GTB
04 = 308 GTS
05 = 512 BB
06 = 400i Automatic
07 = 400i 5-speed
08 = Mondial 8
09 = 512 BBi
10 = 208 GTB Turbo
11 = 208 GTS Turbo
12 = 308 GTB QV
13 = 308 GTS QV
14 = Mondial QV Coupe
15 = Mondial QV Cabriolet
16 = 288 GTO
17 = Testarossa
18 = 308 Convertible
19 = 328 GTB
20 = 328 GTS
21 = 3.2 Mondial Coupe
22 = Unknown
23 = Unknown
24 = 412 Automatic
25 = 412 5-speed
26 = 3.2 Mondial Cabriolet
27 = GTB Turbo
28 = GTS Turbo
29 = 328 Convertible
30 = Testarossa Spider
31 = Unknown
32 = Mondial T Coupe
33 = Mondial T Cabriolet
34 = F40
35 = 348 TB, GTB & GTC
36 = 348 TS & GTS
37 = 408
38 = Unknown
39 = Unknown
40 = 512 TR & F512 M
41 = F355 & 355 F1 Berlinetta
42 = F355 & 355 F1 GTS
43 = 348 Spider
44 = 456 GT & 456M GT
45 =
46 = F50
47 =
48 = F355 & 355 F1 Spider
49 = 550 Maranello
50 = 456 GTA & 45M GTA
51 = 360 Modena & Modena F1
52 = 550 Barchetta Pininfarina
53 = 360 Spider & Spider F1
54 = 612 Scaglietti
55 = 575M Maranello & Maranello F1
56 = Enzo Ferraro
57 = Challenge Stradale
The 8th digit is for the market the car was manufactured for:
A = LHD North America
B = LHD European
C = RHD UK
D = RHD Australia
J = LHD Japan (also JAP or JPN)
S = LHD Sweden or Switzerland
T = LHD Middle East
X = Other (oneoffs, prototypes & race cars)
The 9th digit is a USA CHECK DIGIT for Ferraris for markets other than North America this digit is always a 0 except for Japan where it may be an A or a P.
The 10th digit designates the model year and is used only on Ferraris manufactured for the North American and some Middle East markets. On cars for other markets this will always be a "0" (zero) except for Japan where it sometimes will be a "P" or "N".
A = 1980
B = 1981
C = 1982
D = 1983
E = 1984
F = 1985
G = 1986
H = 1987
I = Not used
J = 1988
K = 1989
L = 1990
M = 1991
N = 1992
O = Not used
P = 1993
Q = Not used
R = 1994
S = 1995
T = 1996
U = Not used
V = 1997
W = 1998
X = 1999
Y = 2000
Z = Not used
1 = 2001
2 = 2002
3 = 2003
4 = 2004
The 11th digit designates the assembly plant which for Ferrari is always Maranello = 0
The 12th -17th digits are the chassis/serial number
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[viabono]

WOW...That is waaay more detail then I was expecting. Very cool...thanks Boxer!!! Andrew, Thank you for putting the VIN list together!!!

 

[GPGardin]

Amazing

I am amazed at the knowledge displayed here!

This could be Ferrari U......

And right now, I am studying for my undergrad.

Greg

 

[Boxer]

This is the current VIN master text book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ferrari-Ser...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210222349&sr=1-1

Ferrari Serial Numbers Manual 1947-2007 - The Raab Files Revisited (Hardcover)
by Matthias Urban (Author)

 

[Red Racer]

VIN #'s were globally standardized in 1979 by ISO, taking effect in 1980 models.

If I remember correctly they fall into these catagories:

motorcycle/scooter--which includes all powersports except marine vehicles

passenger car

commercial vehicles over 12,000 lbs

military

marine

there is a standard method for each category, 17 being the standard number of digits, which includes certain variations and exemptions (some marine and military use up to 20), and all must have the year of manufacture, not to be confused with model year, although some have another number for month to further identify it (i believe it is the 10th digit for year of manufacture in the US), although world models used the 23 available letters at which point they went to numbers, some Japanese models used "0" to represent a post-1980 model in the 10th digit.

I, O, and Q are not used because they are easy to illegally alter

I went to school at MMI in Phoenix and we were required to read any post-WWII Harley-Davidson VIN on the spot-it was the hardest homework assignment I've ever had. It consisted of no less than 12 different VIN methods.

I restored vintage motorcycles for few years, all of them being pre-1980 models. Boy, was that a nightmare chasing down vin codes and methods which seemed to follow no rule of thumb, and changed every couple of years, even within the same product cycle (aka, generation). It gets even more complicated before 1958, because before then, manufacturers werent even required to keep VIN records, and just researching the VIN methods was a daunting task, let alone researching individual VIN numbers. I'll never miss doing that. I miss the motorcycles though, and researching the VINs was always a crash-course in the history of whatever vehicle or manufacturer you were inquiring about.

 

[Testarossa-RSA]

Anyone know how I can research a vin in South Africa

 

[tazandjan]

Jesse- You have the number or want the number? What are you trying to discover?

 

[Testarossa-RSA]

Jesse- You have the number or want the number? What are you trying to discover?

I've got the vin, I want to do a little research in the cars history

 

[tazandjan]

Jesse- Try the local Ferrari club to see if anyone keeps a registry and the local dealership and see if they have serviced the car. Was the car an original SA car or was it imported? If imported, the UK importer may have some info. Would have been Maranello Concessionaires back then, now owned by Penske.

 

[Testarossa-RSA]

Jesse- Try the local Ferrari club to see if anyone keeps a registry and the local dealership and see if they have serviced the car. Was the car an original SA car or was it imported? If imported, the UK importer may have some info. Would have been Maranello Concessionaires back then, now owned by Penske.

Thanks Taz. I'll email the owners club and see what I can get from them(thanks for the idea). It's an original SA car as far as I know, but I will still see I can find any info from the UK importer.

Thanks again

 

[jtremlett]

Jesse- Try the local Ferrari club to see if anyone keeps a registry and the local dealership and see if they have serviced the car. Was the car an original SA car or was it imported? If imported, the UK importer may have some info. Would have been Maranello Concessionaires back then, now owned by Penske.

For clarity (I hope!), Maranello's in the UK no longer retain their records as importer. Their records are owned by the Maranello Archives which is entirely separate. South African cars were not supplied through Maranello's although at various times cars for Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia etc. were.

Jonathan

 

[tazandjan]

Jonathan- Thanks. I figured, but did not really know, an original SA car would not have come through the UK, but remembered how many Australian cars were imported from the UK used. Not necessarily true for South Africa, though.

Do you have contact info for Maranello Archives? Could not find it using Google, except for an FChat reference.

 

[Testarossa-RSA]

Jonathan- Thanks. I figured, but did not really know, an original SA car would not have come through the UK, but remembered how many Australian cars were imported from the UK used. Not necessarily true for South Africa, though.

Do you have contact info for Maranello Archives? Could not find it using Google, except for an FChat reference.

According to our car's vin it is an UK car, probably because it's rhd?

 

[tazandjan]

Jesse- The "C" in the VIN means it is RHD car, but even if the code says RHD UK, "C" code cars were shipped directly to other markets without passing through the UK.

Does SA use miles or kms and does she have metric or English gauges? Might give you a hint, although it would not help in Australia, where the gauges have to be converted.

8th DIGIT Market
A Left-Hand Drive, North America or Middle East (2000-2007)
B Left-Hand Drive, Europe
C Right-Hand Drive, UK
D Right-Hand Drive, Australia
E Left-Hand Drive, China
J / JAP / JPN Left-Hand Drive, Japan
JAP: approx. 1980 - 1994 (with "AP" as the 9th and 10th digit)
JPN: approx. 1994 - 2000 (with "PN" as the 9th and 10th digit)
J: approx. 1997 - present (with "00" as the 9th and 10th digit)
L Left-Hand Drive, Latin and Central America
S Left-Hand Drive, Switzerland or Sweden
T Left-Hand Drive, Middle East (<2000 and >2007)
X Other (one-offs, prototypes and race versions)

 

[Boxer]

I posted up a Ferrari VIN decoder a number of years ago. I am sure a search might bring it back up to into the light.