Oil filters on 308

In my opinion, Fram Oil Filters suck, due to production problems since they make most of them in China,
also UFi and tecnocar filtri seem to share the same italo/US/Chinese production lines and
manufacturing issues by a company called SOGEFI / Allied Signal....

http://www.sogefigroup.com/de/produkte/produkte-fur-den-aftermarket.html

http://www.filtri-tecnocar.com/it/index.html

the last Fram I had, featured a big hole in the filtering screen media, right from the factory.
This is Chinese or Mexican made crap- sorry.



Even Baldwin filters are not the best you can get, try German MANN AND HUMMEL
or SCT Filters (also from Germany) they work best and have a reliable Porsche, Audi, BMW, VW
and Mercedes tested OEM Quality.
You can trust them blindly.

I only use them, please click the following link:

THE BEST German made MANN Oil Filter for your FERRARI 308 328 246 206 Fiat Dino | eBay

There you can see the difference between Fram crap and German high quality Mann filters.

The best filter you can buy for a classic Ferrari looks like this, its MANN & HUMMEL
German high quality filter ware from Stuttgart. You can get them on the ebay link before right from Germany.
There is no better made filter than those German autobahn tested longrange filters.



Best regards
Yorck

Hallo,

maybe you have only seen the US made Mann "ML type" of their "budget overseas filter line" ,

Here you can see the US made Mann Filter, these are not the excellent German made ones.
They are okay but there are better Manns around here in Europe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqosalQDQ-A

Only the "W" "Micro top" (Please notice the difference in colour and stamping of the case)

http://www.van-cafe.com/shop/images/DSCN0090_edited-2.jpg

http://www.scheer-heizsysteme.de/re...NN-Grossflaechenfilterpatrone_und_Adapter.png

filters are those excellent longrange German made filters.
W type Mann filters have stamped "made in Germany" on the case,

(and the printed barcode on the case beginns with a 4 on all German made filters !)

the ML type filters are Made in the USA or Brazil, those are not made by
Mann Stuttgart themself they are contract manufactured by another US Company
maybe Champion labs...those are mediocre.
You can use them but the real German ones from Stuttgart are much better!

In Germany we have tested all kinds of filters, believe me, the only
excellent crafted Filters with the largest filter media surface and best working anti drainback valve are
GERMAN MADE Mann, Bosch or Knecht / Mahle....some SCT are also nice.
But Mann Filters are most common here and well regarded by European sports car enthusiasts.

Attention also with Bosch "Premium" Filters in the USA they are also not the German ones,
just like the Mann filters overseas they are made by a US or Brazilian Company and those are mediocre as well.
You can also use them, but they are not the German HQ ones.
In Germany Bosch Filters are made by Mann, and even Purolator Filters are made by Mann for the European market ;-))

Regarding UFi, open one, in the past they were good, today they look different and share some Quality issues
with the Frame HP1 filter (The better Fram line) but instead of the paper endcaps they have metal endcaps
so they might come from another Asian Source than those Chinese Frams we see everywhere now...
I have seen Frams with "MADE IN CHINA" inscription. Dont want "Made in China" on my Ferrari.

Best regards

Done my homework using the German HQ
Mann Filter
W 940/1
on my Dino 2400 by myself:
The filter is also "downward compatible" to a humble Fram PH8a and Hp1
BUT IT HAS A STANDPIPE for the case of a vertical mount on a Ferrari.
If you mount the filter opposite direction like on most other cars, the standpipe is useless
but does not harm anything. (For example when hanging on a Chevy V8, where it also fits)
In Germany many hot rodded VW KÄfer use this filter too because of its great strength when
a high pressure oil pump is added to a VW or Porsche Flat 4 / 6.
A normal Fram PH8a tends to explode when installed on a high oil pressure application, so they take
this Ferrari HD Filter.


here is the standpipe, on an opened Mann Filter W940/1
for use on a Ferrari Dino and 308/328/400 etc--- and even some Toyota (!) the level keeping pipe ist integrated in the inner
Filter tube. This is not an UFI or Fram exclusive patent ;-)
Lever cant drain when Filter is mounted vertical.
And there is an aditional anti drainback valve.
Mann suggests the Filter for Ferrari 246 and 308.
The German engineers at Mann know what to do to make the best filter quality.
Remember they are Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, VW, Audi, Ford Europe OEM manufacturer.
So nothing easier than making a perfect Ferrari V8 and V6 Filter.

Best regards
Yorck

Here is a screenshot copy and direct link to the German Mann and Hummel Stuttgart
online Filter catalogue (W type of HQ Filters) :

Try it by yourself

https://www.mann-hummel.com/online-catalog/EU/eng

For 246Gt and 308 / 328 / Mondial its always the same HQ Filter Mann W940/1, you wont find a better one.

Here are the Filter specs for the HQ Ferrari Filter made by Mann & Hummel in Stuttgart
Type W940/1:

FIAT DINO 2000 V6 4 OHC
FIAT DINO 2400 V6 4 OHC
FIAT 130 2800 / 3200 LAMPREDI V6 DOHC

206/246 GT Dino
206/246 GTS Dino
208 Turbo/308 GTB/GTS
208/308 GT4 Dino
328 GTB/GTS
328 GTS
365 GT 2+2
365 GTB Daytona
365 GTS Daytona
400 i
412 i
512 BB
Mondial
Mondial Cabrio

Another excellent Ferrari Oilfilter is the
Mannol - SCT - SM133 (SM = SUPER MIGHTY QUALITY ) from
a smaller Oilfilter Company based in Hamburg / Germany.
It also has the anti drainback tube plus an extra valve.



German Mannol SCT SM 133 High Quality Ferrari Oil Filter

SCT Corporation Hamburg is one of the leading manufacturers in Germany for TAXI, Truck and Van applications
they make HQ longrange Oilfilters these Filters feature OEM Quality
and a very good price/performance ratio,

Here is their nice online catlogue:

http://www.sct-catalogue.de/?action=cataloghttp://www.sct-catalogue.de/en/?action=catalog

gearhead329 said:

I agree with that.
I have seen Fram filters blowup two $15k+ racing motors.

My question, for Brian and others, is: What do you think of Wix filters for Ferraris'? I have used them on all of my racecars, and so has my team members, and we've never had any problems from them. I've seen Fram and K&N have the guts of the filter sucked out by the motor and clog the oiling system, causing "oil pan failure".

Click to expand...

WIX = NAPA GOLD Filters,
these filters come from a large plant in Poland called WIX-FILTRON (DANA GROUP OF COMPANIES) ,

http://dana.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=26450&item=69132



http://en.filtron.eu/index.php/site/menu?cat=5

they are okay.... ( a can only speak for some few filters I have seen from them)
not bad at all, but the Mann "W" or Mannol SCT "SM" German quality
Filter has much more screen surface and a better anti drainback system. (Pipe + valve)
Believe me, would you buy Porsche engine parts from Poland?
I would not...
So Porsche avoids any issues with eastern european manufacturers and buys its
Filters "around the corner" in Stuttgart at Mann & Hummel Plant.

I have seen too many faked or pseudo high tech parts from eastern europe...so
today I would only rely on German Tüv / Süd approved material Quality
according Iso 9001 that easily meets Porsche and Mercedes OEM standards.
I have seen bad Fram, mediocre Napa / Wix, and mediocre Purolator / USA Filters.
In Germany Purolator = Mann = Mahle = Bosch.
K&N Filters are just a marketers dream, K&N doesnt build oilfilters, they buy them from
other US factories, maybe Champion Labs...
...just like US made Mann "ML" budget filters that do not meet the real German "W / SM type" longrange quality.
All these newer US Filters share a kind of budget paper screen that is not that fine and large like the
German Micro Top patent screen.
Compared to Mann and SCT they all look like a kind of Mexico/Brazil/China Import budget ware.
Some are better some are worse...Fram sucks (to my mind) in the past (around 1970/1980) FRAM was quite a
good company manufactured in ITALY together with FIAAM UFI and SAVARA all Filters for the Fiat / Alfa brand.
Please watch this:
http://www.ricambienonsolo.it/FOTO/thumbs/1601.jpg
Fram Filters were later also marketed in Italy as SAVARA AXOMICRON and they even gave building licences to the Soviets
for buliding HQ Military jeep and truck canister oilfilters (for ZAZ, GAZ, UAZ, URAL, ZIL and Lada).
(Plus most Fiat licened USSR consumer engines)
Fram even had a factory in England, making OEM Filters for Aston Martin, Bristol, Rover, Rolls Royce and Jaguar...
But since they are on the "profit above all-just ripp off the customer- route" Fram makes the stuff in China and here in Germany
anybody knows that Chinese factories are not that trustworthy....
So we don´t buy Fram products any longer..

The anti drainback vertical pipe is not a Fram / Ufi exclusive Patent, many other companies
make Filters with this feature. There are several Toyotas that also have Filters with
this pipe inside. (So several Japanese HQ Filter companies make them for NIPPON- DENSO...)

Now here is very good sample of refined German craftmanship
Its a SCT SM 108 Oilfilter
(A Fram PH8A competitor used for Chevy 350 V8.... basically its the same Filter
as the SCT SM 133 Ferrari Filter except the 133 type has the anti drainback tube inside...)
Any of these SCT Filters has 65 filter plates, very well organized without that typical "mess", found in most
Cheap Filters.
Please notice the excellent double spring loaded connection between the outer filter case, the Filter engine-thread
connection plate and the Filter element by itself----I have not seen this kind of coilspirng loaded HD "interface" between
the components on any US or / China made Filter! Even Mann does not have this double secured filter..
Is it really needed? I dont know, its nice if you find this refined technology inside your OEM filter...cant be wrong.

Excellent fine quality grade of the filter media itself.

By the way, the little "dents" found on the side of the top metal plate are correct,
in fact its pure smartness!
Sct uses them to prevent the filter element
turning and rocking inside its housing.
Ever found that in a Wix or Ufi?

Direct view inside the Filter element of a SCT SM 108
(same is found on SCT SM 133 Ferrari Filter)
please notice the strong metal frame of the bypass valve, its
welded to the base plate not just a click fit fork type.

Lower side of the inner Filter "drum" element seen from outside down

A strong Top plate is very important, the ones used on SCT and Mann are the most heavy top plates I have seen on any Filter. Double secured, welded from the downside, crimped from the top side. That lasts!

Sorry I cant get those pictures smaller on my cell phone browser...
As you can see our German "Autobahn tested" Filters
are quite well made and those truly fulfill leading OEM requirements.

I dont know how Fram and other Budget US /China import Filters do fullfill this,
often they look not very trustworthy.
The overpressure (bypass) valve is a weak point on many those filters, in Germany their holding frames are
only made from welded steel, not those brickle plastic dented "fork" holders like most others use.
Please watch this:
the mid and the right ones are Frams, the left one is a Japanese Denso...
http://handa-accessories.com/filters.jpg
No need for buying Fram or other el cheapo filters.
I can only suggest use the good German brands like SCT and Mann / Bosch / Mahle / Knecht / Hengst.
(be carefull buying only true GERMAN MADE ones and not their cheaper made US "work alikes"...

Can anyone here please open up a used UFI (Ferrai OEM) filter?
I dont want opening up a brandnew 60 Euro Ufi NOS Filter just for show.
Sadly i dont have a used one laying around.

This SCT SM108 was part of a Chevy Oilfilter re-routing project so I had one opened up some years ago,
just to make sure they are that good as their reputation.
I scraped all Fram "made in China" Filters, I will never use them again.

Best regards

Yorck