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We faced the same dilemma. After spending an afternoon with each of them we went for a manual 360 Spider. The 430 was a very fine car, and on paper represented a better buy. However, we much prefer the interior of the 360, it's softer exterior lines, and didn't notice the power difference in normal driving. In the end, the 360 "spoke" to us and the 430 didn't. Six years on, I'm glad we choose the 360 and would do so again given the same choice.


I think the driving experience is very different with a manual gearbox, much more envolving. To me it is not a matter of going fast, but rather having a special experience when driving.

I'd do the same that you did!
 

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Critical for me is the gated shifter, I want to have a manual gearbox!

F430 is nice but there aren't any manual F430s in Brazil, so not an option for me right now.

In fact, manual F430s AFAIK are pretty rare around the world. If you can put your hands in one, them I have to say: GO FOR IT!!!!!!

But you already have the experience of a manual Ferrari, so maybe a change for the modern world is more interesting to you than it is to me right now.

Seems like maintenance in the F1 gearbox is more frequent and expensive, but I guess a good look in the buyer's guide should shine a light on that subject
For what my 2cents are worth, the manual works better in the 360 and 430s are better with the F1 boxes. I my guess is the 360 was designed around the manual box as standard where things had shifted more towards F1 being the standard configuration by the time they got to the 430.
 

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For what my 2cents are worth, the manual works better in the 360 and 430s are better with the F1 boxes. I my guess is the 360 was designed around the manual box as standard where things had shifted more towards F1 being the standard configuration by the time they got to the 430.


Boxer, have you ever driven a 430 with manual gearbox? That must be quite a find - I wonder if they will appreciate in value with time
 

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Boxer, have you ever driven a 430 with manual gearbox? That must be quite a find - I wonder if they will appreciate in value with time
I drove a couple of manual 430s a number of years ago. Back then they were worth less (and rightfully so) than the F1 versions. I thought the F1 suited the way the car was set up better.

This was also back in the day when manual 599s were unsaleable.
 

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For what my 2cents are worth, the manual works better in the 360 and 430s are better with the F1 boxes. I my guess is the 360 was designed around the manual box as standard where things had shifted more towards F1 being the standard configuration by the time they got to the 430.


What about the Challenge Stradale? Would it be better with a gated shifter?
 

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We faced the same dilemma. After spending an afternoon with each of them we went for a manual 360 Spider. The 430 was a very fine car, and on paper represented a better buy. However, we much prefer the interior of the 360, it's softer exterior lines, and didn't notice the power difference in normal driving. In the end, the 360 "spoke" to us and the 430 didn't. Six years on, I'm glad we choose the 360 and would do so again given the same choice.


If I'm to get a 360, I'm more leaning for it to be a manual. I absolutely love driving manual and where I live, you drive mostly in 2nd gear sometimes 3rd. But if it's to be a 430, although I want a gated box, the F1 seems to probably be the best way. Still not sure, I drove an F430 many years ago and like Boxer said, the F1 seemed perfect for that car but I never drove a 360 in a box so who knows, maybe I will hate the way a 360 feels in a box.




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The AMG is insane, very fast, but a very different experience compared to the Ferrari. The AMG with flappy paddles makes sense to me, but the Ferrari to me should always be manual - the same for a GT3 Porsche.

Or at least my first Ferrari should be a manual, I guess. But you already ticked that box


G, I drove an F430 F1 and I have to say, my AMG feels pretty much the exact same, except it feels more planted to the ground with the AWD while making the same 0-60 specs as a new FCar with a 200 mph top speed. So this is my dilemma. I now enjoy the technology a lot more, A/C.... OMG I miss A/C.


With my 348, I can now say I lived the go-cart feeling of an old Ferrari, rough ride, small hard seats, no power steering, tractor hard clutch, no A/C, strong temperamental shifting when cold... and blah blah blah.


So now, I'm ready for a new modern comfortable change. I want to be able to drive to another city a few hours away to meet up with the other Ferrari owners and not feel like a truck drove over my back when I get out of the car.


Now don't get me wrong, I absolutely love this car and if I were to do it again I would do the exact same thing. The only thing that makes me want to sell it for an upgrade is that I have no room for a 2nd Ferrari, because if I did, I would be buying a newer one and keeping this one. I could keep both but that would mean spending 20K to completely restructure how its' made inside to accommodate another car. My garage might be a 1000 sq ft but its not divided properly and not high enough for a lift for a second car and even if it was, my floor is cracked and is now uneven in one corner. My garage is 55 years old so the best bet would be to tear it down and build a new one but that would cost about $40K. Not a good investment just to buy a car, although it would be fun to have a new garage. The GF doesn't complain about all the stuff I buy but I don't think this would fly just to buy a second car LOL.




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the best bet would be to tear it down and build a new one but that would cost about $40K.
Sounds like a good investment to me, especially if it means that you then have a spare slot for your third Ferrari in a year or two >:)
 

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I'm surprised that you say the AMG feels the same as a 430.

And I totally understand what you mean about the 348! It is great but once you tried it and have lived with it, makes sense to go on to something more practical.

I'm pretty sure I won't have more than one Ferrari. Next car would probably be a Porsche. And my idea is to own a Ferrari for two years or so. Just something I really have to do, you know!?


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I'm pretty sure I won't have more than one Ferrari.
I said that when I bought my 550. In fact, I made it a rule that (DDs excepted), I would only ever have one car of any one make. Fortunately my 246 is a Dino, not a Ferrari :wink2:
 

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I said that when I bought my 550. In fact, I made it a rule that (DDs excepted), I would only ever have one car of any one make. Fortunately my 246 is a Dino, not a Ferrari :wink2:

Hahahahahaha yeah, it is funny how the "disease" evolves.

Right now I have only one garage spot but own three cars - and I don't use any as a daily driver.

And of course I never miss that daily look at the ads to see if there is anything interesting in the market... wife goes crazy
 

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So is this thread finally dead?


Huh????


My Killing Threads will always stay alive... at least I hope that people will keep it alive but Pete would be pissed if it was shut down because of him...


His other thread that you created is still there and should be....


I don't think anything should be closed.






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Huh????


My Killing Threads will always stay alive... at least I hope that people will keep it alive but Pete would be pissed if it was shut down because of him...


His other thread that you created is still there and should be....


I don't think anything should be closed.






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Long live this thread!!!! LOL
 

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It will live on long after we all are gone.
Sadly so many of the most active posters when I joined this forum (5 years ago, now) already have gone: as someone else said recently, it is a bit like a ghost town here these days.
 
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