[Italian Lover]

Lately, I've been wondering as to why I am not drooling over the "modern" Ferraris. No doubt, all are spectacular toys, fast, beautiful, and the specs keep on rising to mind boggling figures. Those achievements in themselves are phenomenal. I suppose I do not belong to that group of Ferrari fans who crave for the latest and fastest and most powerful and so on. I belong to the left behind group where time moves slower. Once a friend of mine said new cars, including Ferraris, are like the modern high tech electric trains,...comfortable, fast, computer governed, etc. ...versus...say locomotive trains, raw machines burning coal, loud and noisy and not so comfortable,etc. Thus, seems like personally I enjoy the early Ferraris prior to the computers and feul injections etc. Most of them were hand made, maybe with less accuracy and fit but you seem to "feel" this human touch and character ? Anyhow, I noticed a lot of you out there seem to enjoy the technology advances. Take a look around, like Mercedes, trying to appeal to everyone, is losing that aura. AMG has no more rawness or manliness. It just turned into a souped up Mercedes. Porsches are becoming another kind of Mercedes. Oh well, just thought if anyone of you had comments. Jimmy

 

[Dr. Bob]

same here, and that is mainly because everything starts to look and sound the same...

 

[308Fan]

I agree, I don't drool over the new ones either. I like to tinker with the engines, etc. Plus there's just something about the 'look' of the new Ferraris that doesn't do much for me.

On a somewhat related not, I was appalled during a test drive of the Porsche Boxster, that I cannot even get to the engine. What the heck is that all about? A sports-car where you can't make any engine adjustments?!?! That's like wearing a rain-coat in the shower...

 

[Italian Lover]

Thanx for the feedback

I am comforted to hear that people out there concurr with me. Obviously, I'm nuts about cars, otherwise, I won't own six now. My first Ferrari initiation was a manual '97 355B. Great car, great exhaust note, fun and dependable and looks I enjoyed. But after couple of years and clocking about 20,000km. my interest bagan to shift to the older carb. Ferraris. Since I have sold my 355 (would have kept it if it were feasible), and purchased a '69 Dino and a '73 365GT4 BB. Both are yes old, but great fun cars. I am still at the initiation stage taking care of problems here and there, but at least for me, I am very happy with the shift. I just hope my indulgence would not get worse. Great to hear some comments. Thank you all. Jimmy

 

[Rosso]

Fantastic choices of cars, Jimmy. The Dino is a timeless classic, a beautiful looking car. The 365 BB is quite the beast, those six tailpipes say it all.

 

[Boxer]

I am very much of the same frame of mind and arrived their on a similar path having started my Ferrari journey with a 95 F355 GTS. It is hard to explain but there is a feeling of much greater involvement when piloting the older carb cars. The new models are fantastic high tech machines but the older ones have a character that seems to be a bit remote in todays models.

 

[Italian Lover]

Thanx !!!

Before deciding on the 365 GT4BB, I was considering others like the 365 GT4 Daytona, Lamborghini Miura, 512BB carb. It was a matter of luck and logical filtering to meet my specific needs and environment. I was only a finger away from buying Miura S, but got taken by a hair. I pondered seriously over Daytona but ruled it out in light of the road situation in Japan. 512BB carb was dropped after sifting thru magazines and literatures. By coincidence I had the opportunity to buy this GT4BB. Simply awesome and tiring too. I wonder what I am going to do next.

 

[Dane]

Lately, I've been wondering as to why I am not drooling over the "modern" Ferraris.

I think we're getting old.... :green:

 

[Italian Lover]

True

Agree, that's part of the story maybe. Yet, true with all recent models , including Ferraris, I just don't feel good in those bloated size, high window sill close to your shoulder height, etc. I suppose to me these improvements in the name of advancements and safety are not the human scale anymore. I myself is about 6' 2" (182cm) and still I prefer the slight crampness of the earlier models (80's and before). These are all just personal preferences. Could this be the enlightment ??? Ha ha

 

[Dane]

It is hard to explain but there is a feeling of much greater involvement when piloting the older carb cars.

Nail on the head.

 

[Boxer]

It is hard to explain but there is a feeling of much greater involvement when piloting the older carb cars.

Nail on the head.

Or sometimes when getting out of some of the early models, head on the nail (or door frame) :wink:

 

[Italian Lover]

Great

It is hard to explain but there is a feeling of much greater involvement when piloting the older carb cars.

Nail on the head.

Or sometimes when getting out of some of the early models, head on the nail (or door frame) :wink:

Right on Boxer! Only the enlightened would receive that blessing.

 

[Andrew]

It is an interesting thought and to add my two cents here goes.

It is a hard topic actually, where does the Enzo fit in the equation? Perhaps it is the exception to the rule in the sense that the Enzo in my opinion is very much a raw driving machine.

I have certainly heard some 360 owners complain the cars are not "fun" like the older model Ferraris.

I did chuckle at Dane's comment and it very well could be a product of age.

 

[Boxer]

and it very well could be a product of age.

careful



:wink: :wink: :wink:

 

[Italian Lover]

Fun to Drive

and it very well could be a product of age.

careful

:wink: :wink: :wink:

Don't have to be careful with me! I accept the reality. hee,hee. Honestly, it is a delicate topic. I suppose, one's viewpoints vary based on their age brackets. Supposedly, if you belong in the early (I mean "young") Ferraristas, you would like the latest, most powerful, and fastest ones, assuming you can afford it. In fact, speaking for myself, up until about 6 years ago, I wasn't that crazy about Ferraris. I never understood why someone would pay $$$ to a car like that and even more $$$$$$$$ to older (vintage) one. Look at me now. Seems like oonce you go beyond the modern Ferraris, you begin to look back and shift your interest to older ones. There are many resons for that. For me, the appeals are like,...hand made, all alloy bodies, limited production numbers, drop dead exhaust notes, and on and on.

 

[Boxer]

Re: Fun to Drive

Don't have to be careful with me! I accept the reality. hee,hee. Honestly, it is a delicate topic. I suppose, one's viewpoints vary based on their age brackets. Supposedly, if you belong in the early (I mean "young") Ferraristas, you would like the latest, most powerful, and fastest ones, assuming you can afford it. In fact, speaking for myself, up until about 6 years ago, I wasn't that crazy about Ferraris. I never understood why someone would pay $$$ to a car like that and even more $$$$$$$$ to older (vintage) one. Look at me now. Seems like oonce you go beyond the modern Ferraris, you begin to look back and shift your interest to older ones. There are many resons for that. For me, the appeals are like,...hand made, all alloy bodies, limited production numbers, drop dead exhaust notes, and on and on.

:wink: :wink: :wink:

I think the saying goes, "they don't quite make them the way they used to"

 

[Andrew]

:green: OK I'll be more sensitive the next time around. I do agree with what Jimmy is saying. The older cars have more character in my opinion and I also like the low production numbers as he suggested.

I still want a Dino really badly. The 365/512s are great too, but I like the style of the Dino more. Another car I've always liked is the 275 GTB/4 which is selling around $450,000 so it will be sometime before that is achievable.

 

[Bart]

My machine is the fastest production road car of the 20th century.

Enought said.

8)

 

[Boxer]

My machine is the fastest production road car of the 20th century.

Enought said.

8)

How do we define "production" ? The F40 had over a thousand units produced (and is 4 km/ph faster than the Beast :wink: ).

 

[Boxer]

:green: OK I'll be more sensitive the next time around. I do agree with what Jimmy is saying. The older cars have more character in my opinion and I also like the low production numbers as he suggested.

I still want a Dino really badly. The 365/512s are great too, but I like the style of the Dino more. Another car I've always liked is the 275 GTB/4 which is selling around $450,000 so it will be sometime before that is achievable.

The 275 GTB/4 is a beautiful car. It is a car I would love to have some day but the F40 comes first.

The Dino 246 is a beautiful car, I just can't get comfortable behind the wheel.