[Dj Dirk]

Didn't they make a car in the 80'ths with a turbo???

 

[Andrew]

Yep your right. From 1984-1986 the 288 GTO. V8 90 degrees, 4 overhead camshafts, 4 vales per cylinder, 2 turbochargers with 2 intercoolers. Output was 400hp/7000rpm. Total number built was 272

 

[Andrew]

Make that 2 cars with turbos. The F40 which produced 478hp with 2 turbos as well

 

[PrancingHorse]

I think Ferrari hasn't done a turbo car in awhile for several reasons. #1 Cost, #2 reliability and #3 a turbo muffles exhaust sound/noise, now I have never heard a turbo Ferrair but I have heard non turbo ferraris and the sound is both sweet and disticntive (sp?) The first two are my suspions (sp?) as to why you really don't see turbo ferraris, besides they are fast enough without them and turbo engines have a unique powerband to them, they are peaky and don't have low end torque, they also aren't as smooth as Normaly Aspirated engines in delivering power

 

[Andrew]

There is a picture of the engine to the 288 GTO in the gallery which shows the turbos really well. When I find one of the F40 engine I will add it as well.

 

[*Modena*]

There's a picture of the F40's engine on my site http://tomsupercars.topcities.com ot http://tomsupercars.topcities.com/Base%20Directory/foto's10.htm

 

[jamesogara]

hey as far as ferrari turbos go you have to include the 208 turbo - basically a 308 with a 2.0 liter engine instead of the 3.0 built to take advantage of italian tax laws regarding engine size. they used the turbo to get the performance up to about 308 level

 

[TimN88]

Maybe n/a ferraris sound good, but turbo'd ones sound great too. The 288GTO, im told by Warner at miller motorcars (ive never heard one) sounds like 8 superbikes when its opened up. The F40 also makes some amazing sounds. The best is when the wastegate dumps. They sound amazing. Actually, turbo engines have ALOT more low end torque than n/a engines. Thats why alot of people who traded in F40s for F50s want their F40s back, because of the low end torque. Ferrari made turbocharged cars for F1 during the 70's too i believe.

 

[Andrew]

damn, i forgot the question. The Ferrari is much more of a drivers car. Much more visceral and sporty, just not as fast in accelleration on paper. The 996tt is a heavy car though. Its 4wd just gives it traction. the 996tt is still one hell of a car, but obviously it cant win here, this is a ferrari site after all!

Yes it is, Ferraris rule. But your right about everything you said. Another problem with turbos or n/a cars is "turbo lag." In order for the turbo to work well even at low torque you have to give it a ton of gas for it to kickin properly, but when you do they are fun for the short little quarter mile street races at stop lights.

 

[F355 Challenge]

Attached is a picture of the 208 GTB Turbo

 

[Andrew]

confused

Isn't that a 288 GTO?

 

[F355 Challenge]

This is a 288 GTO

 

[Andrew]

rarity?

How rare is the 208 GTB Turbo? I know the 288 they only made 272 but I can't find the numbers for the 208.

 

[Dj Dirk]

208 GTB/GTS Turbo 1982
GTB 437 units
GTS 250 units
2 liter topspeed 242 kph

GTB/GTS Turbo 1986
GTB 308 units
GTS 828 units
2 liter topspeed 253 kph

 

[Andrew]

thanks

Dirk,
Thanks for the info. That is exactly what I was looking for. Do you know the difference between the GTB and the GTS? I'm guessing one is the coupe and the other you can take the roof off.

 

[Dj Dirk]

yep that's excatelly what it means.
if i'm not mistaking GTB stands for Grand Touring Berlinetta and GTS for Grand Touring Spyder, however in case of the 208/308 it's a spyder with a Targa roof

 

[philipp.ruest]

The GT in Italian stands for Gran Turismo, which obviously has the same meaning.
Dirk, thanks for the 2-liter Turbo production numbers.
Some more infos about the 2-litre V8 production Ferrari:
To offer a cheaper model for the Italian market by avoiding the luxury tax for >2000cc cars, Ferrari, in 1975, developed a 2-litre version of the 308 GT4 3-litre V8. The displacement was reduced by the use of other cylinder liners and pistons with 66.8mm bore instead of 81mm, while the crankshaft was unchanged with 71mm stroke.
208 GT4 Dino, 1975-80, V8 16v carburated, 1991cc, 170hp, ~220kph.
208 GTB/GTS, 1980-82, V8 16v carburated, 1991cc, 155hp, ~213kph.
208 Turbo GTB/GTS, 1982-85, V8 16v Turbo, 1991cc, 220hp, ~242kph.
GTB/GTS Turbo, 1986-89, V8 16v Turbo intercooler, 1991cc, 254hp, ~253kph.

 

[Andrew]

welcome

philipp.ruest,
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for all the information on turbo Ferraris. We hope to see more of your comments on the board.

 

[Boxer]

Make that 2 cars with turbos. The F40 which produced 478hp with 2 turbos as well

Actually Ferrari produced 6 Turbo cars in the 1980's:

288 GTO
F40
208 GTB Turbo
208 GTS Turbo
GTB Turbo
GTS Turbo

the last 2 are based on the 328.

They did not produce any Turbo road cars either prior to the 80's or after the F40 went out of production in the early 90's.

 

[Dr. Bob]

how did you find this thread? Last post in 2002... And I think you are right with 6 turbo charged cars