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1976 Fiat Dino Spider

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1967 Fiat Dino Spider

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In wonderful condition with an extensive service history file. Restored in the mid 90's, that cost much more than the value of the car at that time - Full body, full mechanical rebuild (engine, transmission, clutch, brakes, suspension etc. etc. ), knock off wheels, new soft top, interior retrimmed in tan leather. Needs nothing, drives perfectly. Purchased in California, it was originally White with Red cloth interior and was completely rebuilt at South Texas Auto Restoration (S.T.A.R). Beautiful example of an appreciating classic finished in dark green with tan leather. Drives like a dream. Hagerty Values it between $55,000 and $93,000. Asking $85,000 or best offer. Auction prices have been through the roof. Contact me for more photos and an honest explanation of any needs.

History: The Fiat Dino 2.0 was the result of a union between mainstream and exotic, producing a unique vehicle for Fiat. The heart of this sleek 2+2 spider is the race derived all-alloy Ferrari V6.
A 5 speed gearbox, four wheel disc brakes, and a limited-slip differential show that this is clearly not just a mainstream vehicle with a high performance engine, but a capable sports car. Conceived as a standalone brand, separate to Ferrari for their smaller engine vehicles, the Dino race car was very successful in its class, and needed at least 500 production cars to meet the homologation requirements. Three road car models were produced; the 206GT, Coupe and Spider. An unsuccessful launch in the US led to Ferrari marketing the mid-engine GT, and Fiat the Coupe and Spider.
Designed and built by Pininfarina, only 1133 2.0 Spiders were made. The value of this beautiful sports car is rising rapidly.
 

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Discussion Starter · #44 · (Edited)
I count 10 DINOS at the 2014 auctions in MONTEREY:


GOODING:

Estimate: $600,000 - $700,000
Chassis: 00126
1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT | Gooding & Company
1968 206, SN 00126, Yellow with Black interior
SOLD AT US$520k + 10% = $572,000

1974 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Estimate: $425,000 - $500,000
Chassis: 07976
Blue
Just Three Owners from New
Long-Term Single Family Ownership
Highly Original and Unrestored Example
Offered with Books and Tools
1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company


BONHAMS:

1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GT
Chassis no. 00338
Engine no. 00338
Sold for US$ 572,000 inc. premium
Bonhams : 1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GTChassis no. 00338Engine no. 00338
SOLD AT US$572,000 incl buyer's premium

Lot 220
1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTS
Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
Chassis no. 06464
*Recent nut-and-bolt restoration
*Exquisite condition in and out
*Desirable Chairs and Flairs GTS specification
*Black with Tabacco colored interior from new
*Delivered new to the US through Modern Classic Motors
US$ 500,000 - 600,000
Bonhams : 1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTSChassis no. 06464
Sold for US$ 539,000 inc. premium

Lot 265
1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT
Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
Chassis no. 03964
US$ 290,000 - 330,000
Bonhams : 1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT Chassis no. 03964
Sold for US$ 319,000 inc. premium


RM AUCTIONS:

Lot 141
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
To be auctioned on Friday, August 15, 2014
$400,000 - $500,000
Chassis no. 06158
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS
SOLD for $400k +10% = $440k


RUSSO AND STEELE:

1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
Monterey 2014
Consignment # 9077
VIN: 246 GTS 07890
Run # S657 Approx. Run Time Saturday 8:51PM-9:11PM
Russo and Steele


MECUM:

1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Color Red
Interior Black
VIN/SERIAL 07328
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions

1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Color Yellow
Interior Beige/black
VIN/SERIAL 05800
ESTIMATE: $400,000 - $500,000
Offered Between 2:00 - 3:00pm
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions


RICK COLE:

1974 246GTS
SN 8454
Verde Medio Nijiynski with Tan interior, 8.7k miles
Estimate $395k-$495k
1974 Ferrari 246 GTS | Rick Cole Auctions

Current Bid: $360,000.00
Time Left: 1D 13h


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Somebody please explain this to me. How can a brown dino be worth nearly 600K?

Ed, I think there are too many money in circulation and crazy people.... Dino is a nice car but 600K is too many in every colour ...
For the other side there are people that want to pay M$ for a cuts of Fontana, that is only a copper plate with some cuts ... crazy!
 

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Ed, I think there are too many money in circulation and crazy people.... Dino is a nice car but 600K is too many in every colour ...
For the other side there are people that want to pay M$ for a cuts of Fontana, that is only a copper plate with some cuts ... crazy!
Not crazy if you own one!:thumbsup:
 

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One good thing about all the recent Dino price craziness is that a lot of them have been very well restored. Would not have been nearly as many brought back to better than new (no rust like they had when they were new) condition, so many a marginal Dino is now immaculate.

The right front fender was rusted through on my three year old Dino in 1975.
 

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I count 10 DINOS at the 2014 auctions in MONTEREY:


GOODING:

Estimate: $600,000 - $700,000
Chassis: 00126
1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT | Gooding & Company
1968 206, SN 00126, Yellow with Black interior
SOLD AT US $748,000

1974 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Estimate: $425,000 - $500,000
Chassis: 07976
Blue
Just Three Owners from New
Long-Term Single Family Ownership
Highly Original and Unrestored Example
Offered with Books and Tools
1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company
SOLD: $440,000


BONHAMS:

1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GT
Chassis no. 00338
Engine no. 00338
Sold for US$ 572,000 inc. premium
Bonhams : 1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GTChassis no. 00338Engine no. 00338
SOLD AT US$572,000 incl buyer's premium

Lot 220
1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTS
Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
Chassis no. 06464
*Recent nut-and-bolt restoration
*Exquisite condition in and out
*Desirable Chairs and Flairs GTS specification
*Black with Tabacco colored interior from new
*Delivered new to the US through Modern Classic Motors
US$ 500,000 - 600,000
Bonhams : 1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTSChassis no. 06464
Sold for US$ 539,000 inc. premium

Lot 265
1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT
Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
Chassis no. 03964
US$ 290,000 - 330,000
Bonhams : 1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT Chassis no. 03964
Sold for US$ 319,000 inc. premium


RM AUCTIONS:

Lot 141
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
To be auctioned on Friday, August 15, 2014
$400,000 - $500,000
Chassis no. 06158
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS
SOLD for $400k +10% = $440k


RUSSO AND STEELE:

1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
Monterey 2014
Consignment # 9077
VIN: 246 GTS 07890
Run # S657 Approx. Run Time Saturday 8:51PM-9:11PM
Russo and Steele


MECUM:

1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Color Red
Interior Black
VIN/SERIAL 07328
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions

1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Color Yellow
Interior Beige/black
VIN/SERIAL 05800
ESTIMATE: $400,000 - $500,000
Offered Between 2:00 - 3:00pm
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions


RICK COLE:

1974 246GTS
SN 8454
Verde Medio Nijiynski with Tan interior, 8.7k miles
Estimate $395k-$495k
1974 Ferrari 246 GTS | Rick Cole Auctions
Total Sale Price: $447,700.00


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I don't know, it my be crazy to hold onto it. ;)
Very true. A friend of mine tracked down a rather special Aston a few years back - it had been his life's ambition to own that particular car and he told me he would take it to his grave. For a couple of years he drove it regularly and took it to shows all over Europe, so he enjoyed it and so did a lot of others. Then he discovered just how much it was worth and that frightened him, so he sold it earlier this year.

Terry, your point is valid: if they are not worth restoring, then some will be lost. But if they are worth too much, then they will simply become "investment vehicles" and get locked away in vaults, only brought out for the occasional show and when it is time to go to auction.
 

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Very true. A friend of mine tracked down a rather special Aston a few years back - it had been his life's ambition to own that particular car and he told me he would take it to his grave. For a couple of years he drove it regularly and took it to shows all over Europe, so he enjoyed it and so did a lot of others. Then he discovered just how much it was worth and that frightened him, so he sold it earlier this year.

Terry, your point is valid: if they are not worth restoring, then some will be lost. But if they are worth too much, then they will simply become "investment vehicles" and get locked away in vaults, only brought out for the occasional show and when it is time to go to auction.

Taz is right, it's lovely that many have been restored. There are now hundreds of new Dino owners feeling wonderful at owning such a valuable and valued (in the sense of appreciated) car. I don't know the 'when' but IMHO it is as certain as it is that autumn is coming, that at some point these folks are going to own big six figure deficits in their Dino investments.


Remember that this was a car that FIAT and Ferrari had built to a price and in big numbers: 3913 units. We're not talking about a one-of-two-examples 3-posti Ferrari 250 or a 250GTO. Once the dealers and the 'flippers' sense that the market is near its top, watch out!
 

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What are the prices of other Enzo era Ferraris with chrome bumpers doing?
While true, it is an entry level Enzo era Ferrari, it is pacing the bigger sisters and the engine has racing provenance. Just 3 years ago, PininFarina declared it as one of their top 10 designs of all their automobile executions
Factor in the cost of restorations and it makes a great counter to your argument.

Taz is right, it's lovely that many have been restored. There are now hundreds of new Dino owners feeling wonderful at owning such a valuable and valued (in the sense of appreciated) car. I don't know the 'when' but IMHO it is as certain as it is that autumn is coming, that at some point these folks are going to own big six figure deficits in their Dino investments.


Remember that this was a car that FIAT and Ferrari had built to a price and in big numbers: 3913 units. We're not talking about a one-of-two-examples 3-posti Ferrari 250 or a 250GTO. Once the dealers and the 'flippers' sense that the market is near its top, watch out!
 

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What are the prices of other Enzo era Ferraris with chrome bumpers doing?
While true, it is an entry level Enzo era Ferrari, it is pacing the bigger sisters and the engine has racing provenance. Just 3 years ago, PininFarina declared it as one of their top 10 designs of all their automobile executions
Factor in the cost of restorations and it makes a great counter to your argument.




Scott, no one will dispute that the Dino is an exquisite design, nor that it is an exceptionally nimble and wonderfully handling car. Restoration cost is absolutely irrelevant. For bear in mind that old axiom, let someone else do the restoration. The only exception to this rule is during a market bubble, and then only if you can complete the restoration in time to sell into the bubble.


Here's a perfect real-life example that I earlier posted on the Chinetti Tre-posti thread: a good friend of mine who was a free-lance Ferrari dealer for whom I did some legal work and with whom I invested in a couple of Ferraris in the mid 1980s, told me a story of a client of his who had bought a 330GT2+2 in the mid 1980s for $70K, invested another $25K to make it a really really nice car (you could do it in those days), watched prices pass $100Kand run up to around $150K in 1988 or 89. He offered the car at $175K as the market was just topping and when it didn't sell reduced his price by $5K. Still no sale and a couple of weeks later another reduction and this went on with a reduction of his ask almost weekly, $5K at a time. By mid-1990 the car still hadn't sold and it finally went for, if I recall correctly, $57K. He didn't get his money out. Real life story.


That's what happens when a bubble ends.


Prediction: you will be able to buy a Dino for $200K or less, adjusted for inflation; I don't know when, but you can go to the bank on it.
 

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Clearly more money than brains went into that purchase...


David, want to go partners in a new business? There are probably hundreds of 308GT4 Dinos in really bad condition, economically un-restorable. And there are obviously a horde of people out there with more money than brains. Could be lots of fun - if one is into sacrilege - trashing Dinos (though the GT4 is a wonderful handling car - I've had two of them). The trick will be to do these ONLY one at a time, since one never knows when the jackasses will awaken and stop buying, and there goes our market. :yikes:
 

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DINOS at the 2014 auctions in MONTEREY:


GOODING:

Estimate: $600,000 - $700,000
Chassis: 00126
1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT | Gooding & Company
1968 206, SN 00126, Yellow with Black interior
SOLD AT US$748,000

1974 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Estimate: $425,000 - $500,000
Chassis: 07976
Blue
Just Three Owners from New
Long-Term Single Family Ownership
Highly Original and Unrestored Example
Offered with Books and Tools
1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company
SOLD: $440,000


BONHAMS:

1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GT
Chassis no. 00338
Engine no. 00338
Bonhams : 1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GTChassis no. 00338Engine no. 00338
SOLD AT US$572,000 incl buyer's premium

Lot 220
1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTS
Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
Chassis no. 06464
*Recent nut-and-bolt restoration
*Exquisite condition in and out
*Desirable Chairs and Flairs GTS specification
*Black with Tabacco colored interior from new
*Delivered new to the US through Modern Classic Motors
US$ 500,000 - 600,000
Bonhams : 1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTSChassis no. 06464
Sold for US$539,000 inc. premium

Lot 265
1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT
Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
Chassis no. 03964
US$ 290,000 - 330,000
Bonhams : 1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT Chassis no. 03964
Sold for US$319,000 inc. premium

Lot 299
1974 DINO 246GTS Chairs and Flairs
SN 08280
Silver with Red interior
Est $400-475k
Bonhams : 1974 FERRARI DINO 246GTS Chassis no. 08280
Bonhams : 1974 FERRARI DINO 246GTS Chassis no. 08280
Sold for US$390,500 inc. premium


RM AUCTIONS:

Lot 141
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
To be auctioned on Friday, August 15, 2014
$400,000 - $500,000
Chassis no. 06158
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS
SOLD for $400k +10% = $440k


RUSSO AND STEELE:

1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
Monterey 2014
Consignment # 9077
VIN: 246 GTS 07890
Run # S657 Approx. Run Time Saturday 8:51PM-9:11PM
Russo and Steele


MECUM:

1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Color Red
Interior Black
VIN/SERIAL 07328
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions

1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
Color Yellow
Interior Beige/black
VIN/SERIAL 05800
ESTIMATE: $400,000 - $500,000
Offered Between 2:00 - 3:00pm
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions


RICK COLE:

1974 246GTS
SN 8454
Verde Medio Nijiynski with Tan interior, 8.7k miles
Estimate $395k-$495k
1974 Ferrari 246 GTS | Rick Cole Auctions
Total Sale Price: $447,700.00
 

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Gooding:


1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS, Black/Black, Chassis 06286 Lot 8
Est Range $400-475k
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company

1970 Ferrari Dino 246 GT, White/Black?, Chassis 00600 Lot 53
Est Range $550-750k
1970 Ferrari Dino 246 GT | Gooding & Company

1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT Chassis: 00178 Lot 107
Estimate: $375,000 - $450,000
1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT | Gooding & Company

1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS, Red/Black, Chassis 4786 Lot 144
Est Range $400-475k
1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Gooding & Company

RM Auctions:
1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS, Yellow/Black, Chassis 08040
Est Range not provided
1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS by Scaglietti | Arizona 2015 | RM AUCTIONS

1970 Ferrari Dino 246 GT 'L-Series', Red/Tan, Chassis 01016
Est Range not provided
1970 Ferrari Dino 246 GT 'L-Series' by Scaglietti | Arizona 2015 | RM AUCTIONS


Bonhams:
1969 FERRARI DINO 246 GT SERIES L, Red/Black, Chassis 00542
Est Range $450-500k
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22205/lot/116/

1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS, Red/Black, Chassis 04870
Est Range $350-450k
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22205/lot/150/
 
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