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hi

dont know if anyone is interested or not but i had the digital mileage corrected on my 360 the other day as i had the speedo replaced. wasnt even sure if it could be done but a friend had mentioned a guy who could, was a little scared at someone tampering with the speedo as it cost a bit to replace thanks to my local dealership.

anyway called this chap from www.dashtechservices.co.uk who came down and did the job within an hour. boy!! i was amazed that they have the know how to do this as the dealership didnt. just shows how easy it is for people to change the mileage on their cars with no tell tale signs. i was under the impression that the digital mileages were secure from tampering, now i know its not the case. it is worrying though cus if someone was to take a few thousand miles of in between services, who would know.

how do these guys operate without a problem, yes mine was a genuine correction but he never ask for any proof or questions to why i wanted it changing.

how do we know if the mileage on the cars we purchase are really genuine?????
 

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marty I assume you wanted to INCREASE the odo reading to get the new speedo up to where your previous speedo was? Or did you use a second-hand unit that had more mileage on it than your own car?
 

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well at the time i was told by my dealer that i couldnt stick a second hand unit in my car as it had the imobilizer codes etc and it wouldnt work, so i bought a new unit and had it put forward to the correct mileage...almost!!

i was told by this guy at dashtech services that the dealer was talking a load of bull and i could of used a secondhand unit without any problems. not alot i can do now.
 

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well at the time i was told by my dealer that i couldnt stick a second hand unit in my car as it had the imobilizer codes etc and it wouldnt work, so i bought a new unit and had it put forward to the correct mileage...almost!!

i was told by this guy at dashtech services that the dealer was talking a load of bull and i could of used a secondhand unit without any problems. not alot i can do now.
Dealers are not allowed to change the milometer setting of a car, be it Ferrari or BMW of Mercedes. They'll be sacked immediately if they're caught. So they don't normally entertain requests of that nature. I changed the speedometer on my 328 before and the factory set the milometer at the milage that the old meter had stopped. That was the condition for supplying the part.

So I am glad that it was not the dealer that did it. A third party outfit does not have any liability, so they can do it.
 

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i didnt ask the dealers to alter the mileage, i wanted it put forward to the mileage which my last speedo was at, but they didnt have the software to do it. maybe because it was digital. yours i assume was analoge which most people could do anyway.

cant see why you would get sack if you was to put the right mileage on a speedo with zero on it. if they are gonna supply you with a new speedo then they should have the ability to put the right mileage on it for you, its like supply you with a new ECU without any data in it. dont see why i had to pay someone else £450 to put it right and also why they told me i couldnt use a secondhand unit when i could of done and saved myself a packet.
 

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And also i have read that some dealerships have the ability to reset the delivery miles on a new car, how is that legal then? clocking the mileage back on a car is illegal be it 50 miles or 10,000 miles

is that not a sackable offence?
 

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marty,

Welcome to the site, I hope you will enjoy it. We have a number of people in the UK so keep your eyes open for them.

Now on topic and this is a great topic by the way. You make an excellent point and I think the scary fact is, we can't tell if the milage is true or not by just looking at the meter. I think this is true of all cars digital or analog.

I think service records certainly help as any gaps would be a cause for concern.

I also agree with you 100% that it is backwards the dealer didn't do the fix. Shame on them, but I'm glad you shared the name of this other company.

Enjoy the 360!

Andrew
 

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marty355 said:
And also i have read that some dealerships have the ability to reset the delivery miles on a new car, how is that legal then? clocking the mileage back on a car is illegal be it 50 miles or 10,000 miles

is that not a sackable offence?
Then you should report the matter to Ferrari North America. Do everyone a big favour, especilly those unsuspecting buyers. I would, if it happens in KL.
 

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marty,

Welcome to the site, I hope you will enjoy it. We have a number of people in the UK so keep your eyes open for them.

Now on topic and this is a great topic by the way. You make an excellent point and I think the scary fact is, we can't tell if the milage is true or not by just looking at the meter. I think this is true of all cars digital or analog.

I think service records certainly help as any gaps would be a cause for concern.

I also agree with you 100% that it is backwards the dealer didn't do the fix. Shame on them, but I'm glad you shared the name of this other company.

Enjoy the 360!

Andrew

thank you and i'm glad to say this is a great forum, i' new to forums but am very impressed so far. as for the guy at www.dashtechservices.co.uk he certainly knows his job and i can say i was comfortable with this chap working on my pride and joy. mention my name (marty) to him if you use his service, he'll remember me i'm a big tipper. i know he does a postal services if your outside the uk.
 

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Hey we do not want digital warfare here. Just let people post their opinions about the services they used, and then let the people who want to use it decide what they want to do. To not put angry smileys on a service you never used because you do not know how their service is.
 

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I must have missed this topic before. Don't confuse changing the reading on a car's odometer with odometer fraud. The laws state that you must disclose the actual miles on the car when you sell it.

Odometer fraud is "when the true mileage of a vehicle is intentionally hidden from the consumer. It is a Class D crime for a person or dealer to alter the odometer reading with the intent to deceive."

If my odometer fails at 40k and I put a new odometer in and then put 20k miles on it and dedide to sell the car, I must include a written statement saying that the odometer was replaced or altered and the actual mileage on the car is 60k. If I tell the prospective buyer that the car has 20k actual and original miles then I am committing fraud. If I buy a used odometer that shows higher mileage, it is legal for me, or a dealer, to roll it back to what mine read when it failed. In Maine a car is not even required to have a working odometer. Should my odometer fail and I drive the car for 3 years before selling it, it is perfectly legal for me to disclose "actual mileage unknown". As long as I'm not trying to represent the car as having lower mileage than it does, I'm OK.

So what Marty did was perfectly acceptable and admirable. He made sure the numbers on the dash are an accurate representation of the car's true mileage which buyer's use as an indicator of wear and tear.
 

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i was only pointing out that this guy is not of the same company that i used as his name is similar. and i would personally not let someone play with my car electronics unless he was highly recomended, i didnt want anyone confusing this guy with the company i used as his name is similar.

we are talking about £100,000 cars here so knowing if someone knows what there doing is pretty important dont you think and i just wanted to point out that the company i used was www.dashtechservices.co.uk and not dashtechuk.
 
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