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I am looking for the cost of various common 308 repairs. This is useful when evaluating a car for purchase, negotiating a purchase price, and when trying to see if the repair shop is charging a fair price. I did a quick search and I could not find a thread like this. I would welcome all responses. What did you have done? How much it cost? Did you do it yourself?

In particular I am interested in the following items.

Paint Job (without a color change)
Re upholster the seats
A more complete redo of the passenger compartment
Get the syncros fixed
Timing Belts
Windshield replacement
Upgrade the window motors
Fix/upgrade/replace Air Conditioning

But you don't need to limit your responses to the items I asked about.
 

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I am looking for the cost of various common 308 repairs. This is useful when evaluating a car for purchase, negotiating a purchase price, and when trying to see if the repair shop is charging a fair price. I did a quick search and I could not find a thread like this. I would welcome all responses. What did you have done? How much it cost? Did you do it yourself?

In particular I am interested in the following items.

Paint Job (without a color change)
Re upholster the seats
A more complete redo of the passenger compartment
Get the syncros fixed
Timing Belts
Windshield replacement
Upgrade the window motors
Fix/upgrade/replace Air Conditioning

But you don't need to limit your responses to the items I asked about.

People reading this are from all over the world. Prices change by several hundred percent depending on where you are. The state I am in is one of the most costly to do business in the entire USA. The part of the county I am in is one of the most costly areas within California. Then there is the matter of the type of repair. I was discussing transmission repairs just 2 days ago. Ferrari transmissions almost never wear out. They are broken. No 2 cost the same to repair. Late last year I repaired 2 BB512 transmissions. One seemed very serious. It was towed to me from the East Coast and shipped back after completion. The other seemed less serious. The one that did not seem serious cost $18,000 to repair and the other cost about $6000 including transportation for 6,000 miles which was still $19,000 less than the estimate from a local East Coast shop. Where do you find an average in that? Ferrari major components are like a box of Cracker Jacks, there is a surprise in every package.

We work closely with 2 body shops who specialize in exotics. If I asked for an estimate on a complete repaint over the phone all I would get is laughter. The difference from car to car can be several magnitudes.

While your post may be well intentioned it would be far more productive to have a list of shops in various regions where they could seek out honest answers to those questions. Then they would recieve some information that would apply to them.

If your post is intended to assist a car shopper the best information they can get will be the pre purchase inspection report from a quality, qualified specialist in the make and model being shopped for. A buyer who does not avail himself of such counsel is much like a lawyer who represents himself. The other thing to remember as a buyer, you can never fix one up for what it costs to buy a good one to start with.
 

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I replaced the clutch cable on the Dino, was a bit less than $100. Also rebuilt the water pump, cost me about the same in parts. So far so good! 4yrs and still running strong!

Cheers!
 

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Brian I agree with every point you made.
Costs vary from location to location, so knowing the location is important.
Definitely get a PPI!
I fully agree it is less costly to get one in great condition to start with. However I would not expect to find a car without some flaws. What I am looking for here is the information that will enable me to make more informed initial decisions. With some limited information I can save my self the cost of a PPI by rejecting the car myself based upon stated or obvious flaws and a general feel for the cost of the repair. For instance if I was looking for a BB512 and someone offered me a great deal on one with a broken transmission your $18000 vs $6000 experience would be very useful to know. (But with a broken trans it can't even be test driven so I would have to walk away from that)
 

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Let's see if I can't help you out here. I do most of my own work on my '79 308. I've had the car for 6 years and I've put about 10k miles on it. (we've got 5 cars so I don't really put a whole lot of miles on any of them). So over the years I've replaced the speedo impulse generator for $150, the oil pressure sending unit for $35, the air injection check valve which was free because I had one that came off my Jeep that fit. Upgraded the window motors for $300. Upgraded the fuse panel for around $50. The most expensive repair was when the points failed. First the low speed points failed so I just disconnected them. Then the high speed points failed so it needed fixing and the price of the points was $75 each and it needed 4 of them. You have to remove the distributors to change them so I just went and swapped it over to electronic ignition. Put in 2 Crane Cams Fireball ignitions, 2 Accell High Power coils, a set of Magnacor racing wires and a new set of plugs and the whole job was around $500 and took me 2 weekends. I then took it to a mechanic with Ferrari experience who sync'ed the carbs, set the timing and did a front end alignment for $300. I had to replace the engine lid lift cylinders for $100. I got those at the local discount auto parts store. They didn't have a 308 listing but I'd done my research and knew they carried the brand and I just gave them the part number to order. I think that's pretty much all I've done to the car except for swapping the gear oil over to synthetic and changing the oil every year. Oh yeah, I did have to put in a new battery last year for $75.

This year I plan on doing the timing belts and idler pulleys. I know the belts are only $26 each, I haven't priced the idler pulleys but I think they are around $150 each. While I've got it apart there is a guy who can rebuild the water pump with upgraded bearings and seals for $150, I've got to track down his contact info again. I can cut my own gaskets if he doesn't supply them. That's one advantage to the 308, you don't have to remove the engine to change the belts. After I complete that I'll probably take it back up to my mechanic and have him recheck the carbs, timing and alignment (it's been 4 years). I might have to put new tires on it this year also. Don't know what I'll get. I've been happy with the Firestone Firehawks that are on it and they are only like $100 each so I'll probably stick with them.

For your other items of interest:

Paint Job - I'd say at least $3-5,000 if no body work is required. You might be able to get it less if you have a body shop you are comfortable with.

Re-Upholster the seats and re-do interior - No idea but I bet it would be expensive.

Get the synchro's fixed - The problem is only in second gear when the tranny is cold. Switching to Redline synthetic gear oil helps this as does just letting the car warm up a bit before driving. Also, the 308 is powerful enough that you can just go from first to third until the tranny is warmed up.

Windshield replacement - I don't even want to think about that. What scares me more is if that curved window in the back were to break.

Air Conditioning - Mine didn't work when I bought the car and I never fixed it. (I live in Maine). Having said that, the compressor is a stock GM unit and I think as long as the evaporator and condensor are still good you should be able to buy all the other components off the shelf at a discount auto parts store as long as you tell them it is for a Buick and not a Ferrari. For some of the hoses you may have to find someone who can custom make them.

I hope that helps you out a little. Doing my own work I've found the 308 to be a very affordable car and I have fun working on it. People ask what I'm doing and I say, "Oh, just working on the Ferrari." and they think you must be some kind of a rocket scientist or something. They don't know it is just a big go-cart with fancy bodywork. I think I've spent more in repairs to my Dodge Ram than I have to my 308. You want a good body, a good interior and decent mechanicals. So when you go to look at one, if it looks good and drives good, it is worth giving the car some serious consideration and investing in the PPI.
 

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Lots of useful info there. I agree that the 308 is relatively easy to work on. General rule of thumb is that older cars are easier to work on. I had a 308 years ago. I found it to be very reliable. The only significant repair I ever had to do was the water pump which I replaced myself. At the time my a/c was still working so I didn't want to disconnect it, so I removed the gas tank and put the compressor where the tank was and removed the timing belt covers to get to the pump. If they had just designed the timing belt covers a little differently you would not even need to remove them.
 

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Repairs

Seats + $2-3000
The entire interior $5-6000
Belts alone $1300
Complete 30k service $3-4000
Paint $99 - $10,000 Depending how good you want it to be.

These prices are for work done by reputable shops. You may find that an interior guy who do it for much less but it could be hit or miss. Also, how correct do you want it to be? You want factory type of stitching?
 
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