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After all those years (should we say decades?) owner and recent purchasers of 365 and 512 BB's are (psychologically) rewarded by a strongly increasing price trend. Prices seem to be around 250 - 400 US/Euros and up. Patience seems to be rewarded. Congrats (even though it doesn't help practically if you do not sell...but then....why should you sell those beauties) !!


(Or in other words: Why should a BB not have the value of a Dino ?!)
 

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TRs are making a similar move
Are they? I still seem to come across TRs that surprise me with prices not far ahead of Maranellos.
 

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After all those years (should we say decades?) owner and recent purchasers of 365 and 512 BB's are (psychologically) rewarded by a strongly increasing price trend. Prices seem to be around 250 - 400 US/Euros and up. Patience seems to be rewarded. Congrats (even though it doesn't help practically if you do not sell...but then....why should you sell those beauties) !!


(Or in other words: Why should a BB not have the value of a Dino ?!)

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I would say, why Dino should a value over the BB ??
Because have less pistons .... ?
 

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Fabio- Mainly because it is prettier and resembles the mid engine Ferrari sports-racing cars of the 60s.
 

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Fabio- Mainly because it is prettier and resembles the mid engine Ferrari sports-racing cars of the 60s.
On the other hand the BB is rarer than the Dino and BBs were raced in period with semi-works backing.
I think one of the reasons why the Dino has been in more demand than the BB is that it is a whole lot cheaper to run and overall is perceived to be a lot more accessible than the BB.
Both brim with that mythical Ferrari magic!
 

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I haven´t undestood the Dino Premium over the Boxer for a long time....

Than a friend from Seattle visited us and he said, that the Boxer isn´t old enough for some events. So the Dino is more money. Don´t know, but seems to could be one reason, at least in the States.


For me tit was much easier to do an engine out service on the Boxer (belts, waterpump and some details) than on the Dino (done the gearbox myself for the second time, first was for an old Mini...).

I like to maintain the Boxer more than the Dino, besides tune the carbs on the Boxer are a nightmare. Dino is very easy and i learned on that to tunte Weber Carbs.

Ok... I have to stop me here, to much OT.
 

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Perhaps we should allow the BBs more slack for chassi tuning, road holding optimization, engine rev happiness on BB 512s? It's not a perfect car, nor are early 911s, yet look at the driving joy people get from optimizing their early 911s! The Dino, 308 and 328 are, as stock, closer to Nirvana than the BB.

If we optimize our Ferraris without compromising the original structure, I believe we can get more joy out of them. We need to rid ourselves from the purist devil riding our backs?

My 308 Vetro is a better car with the Stradale wheels and wheel arches that Vitalone installed on it before me. My Dino would be a better car with teflon bushings and so would my 308. F 40 brakes and shocks on my 308 would be awesome and they may very well be on their way. There's no compromising of the original structure.

A lowered, chassi tuned BB with the Stratos wheels from my 308 would be a weapon. Add better brakes, faster lock to lock steering, cooling enhancements and you can have a lot of fun. The engine sits too high for the car's own good, ok. But a 911 has the engine behind the rear axle and STILL people can turn it into a serious track tool. Give the BB a chance but in the process, give it som slack from the traditional Ferrari stock-o-mania. If we initiate a track culture for the BB, I'm certain the market will provide parts to iron out the week spots. There's already an upgrade available on the shitty differential - and it didn't come from Ferrari! Ferrari is too busy imposing their holy Classiche brand and couldn't be bothered with post improving their products. Let's break away from purism where needed. That said, don't go putting 19" wheels on your 250 SWB!
 

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Good points on chronology and reputation as a bit of a handful holding the BB back.

Now that prices of the Countach LP400 have gone into orbit and with the BB reaching the "right age" it looks like its time is coming.

Interesting mention of the early 911s, il Capolino, when I pushed my 512BB through some of the tight bends at Kyalami she felt like a heavier and more potent version of my early 911. Definitely a slow in fast out driving style for both as opposed to the too fast in and hold it out approach of the 308!
 

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Congrats to the long term BB owners.

I believe for many it's all about budget and once certain models are no longer obtainable buyers with cash or have borrowing power simply move to the next best thing.

Economy both past and present for at least the next 18 - 24 months looks good then I fear those who went on a limb may snap - something I rarely say but money is flowing awfully fast.
 

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The 365 BB at the RM auction went for USD 511'500......!
330 GTC for USD 907'500 !
288 GTO for 2'750'000 !
250 GTE for 423'500 !

The Bears really need a very long breath....;-)
 

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The 365 BB at the RM auction went for USD 511'500......!
330 GTC for USD 907'500 !
288 GTO for 2'750'000 !
250 GTE for 423'500 !

The Bears really need a very long breath....;-)
Correct - left off the buyers premium.

Everything aligned perfectly - but car guys can't afford these cars so it's slightly depressing the new owners are Pebble Beach bound with a stylish dust buster.
 

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Correct - left off the buyers premium.

Everything aligned perfectly - but car guys can't afford these cars so it's slightly depressing the new owners are Pebble Beach bound with a stylish dust buster.
Visit Europe Doug, its different here😄
 
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