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Hi there!

Anyone from South Africa?
 

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No but I've been there a few times. Cape Town twice, Durban once and Johannesburg a few times. I love South Africa! The beautiful women with the Afrikaner accent, Oh Wow!

Yeah, you can keep the rest of Africa. Liberia through Angola on the west coast; Somalia through Egypt on the east coast; civil wars, corrupt governments, poverty and starvation. I've got a buddy from Togo and I'm sure your aware of the political situation there. The whole continent is a mess. But you round the Cape of Good Hope and you've found Africa's true diamond.
 

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There are a few other stable and peaceful nations in Africa, but nobody hears about them since the big news channels don't find them interesting, hehehe 8)
 

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There are a few other stable and peaceful nations in Africa, but nobody hears about them since the big news channels don't find them interesting, hehehe 8)
Name some of the peaceful and stable nations in Africa. The only one I can think of is Botswana (about the size of Texas), although a Boer might disagree with me. They are actually doing some pretty good things, have fair elections and are looking real good economically although the AIDS rate is pretty high.
 

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so until now, still no one... :-?
 

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Botto said:
There are a few other stable and peaceful nations in Africa, but nobody hears about them since the big news channels don't find them interesting, hehehe 8)
Name some of the peaceful and stable nations in Africa. The only one I can think of is Botswana (about the size of Texas), although a Boer might disagree with me. They are actually doing some pretty good things, have fair elections and are looking real good economically although the AIDS rate is pretty high.
I met someone from South Africa a while back and I heard it's getting pretty bad out there, as far as racial tension goes... very unsafe for the white minorities. Correct me if I'm misinformed.
 

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You know, over the past racialist years, white people always looked down on blacks...since the freedom of Nelson Mandela, many people are having difficulty accepting the fact that black people are their equal, and they have to be treated with equal respect. Therefore those people will always be negative in their minds.

On the contrary, I have seen my business boom, I have seen the country prosper, crime being lower...I now see many cross-racial couples in the shopping malls, at universities and schools I see a mixed race of friends, etc...It's a new generation of kids growing up. Just yesterday I was telling my wife that the black people now talk so differently (accent change) and intelligently. I now see black people driving Porsches, BMW's, Mercedes, living in houses bigger than mines! Wearing expensive clothes, and really progressing well. All this is new to us, and many are jealous, pessimistic and cannot accept the change.

The country is definately prospering. Tourism is at an all time high. Cape Town is a top 5 destination in the world, it's so expensive and high class that it is cheaper for me to visit my family in UK rather than visit Cape Town in peak season!!

Car sales have rocketed to astronomical levels, the exchange rate is BRILLIANT, the property prices have quadrupled over the last 2 years...I assure you , if you want to invest, put your money here in this country! 6.5% interest for just leaving your money in the bank account!! Where do you hear of an interest rate like that? My accounts in UK give me a lousy 2.6% !!!

In fact, I have seen an article on one of the websites that now New York has more crime than Johannesburg. 5 years ago, it was the other way round. How the tables have turned.

So to answer your question, no...South Africa is not bad at all, you may tell that person who told you it is bad that they should change their racialist mindset, see how the world is progressing and accept South Africa's progress..be positive... :)
 

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Yeah, I was in Durban in '96. I heard gunfire in the background. Some of the guys with me were black Americans. We found that the black South Africans would actually discriminate against the black Americans worse than the whites. They thought the black Americans were too high on their horse and they had this whole "So you think you're better than me" attitude when all we did was ask for a beer.

The last time I was in South Africa was in 2001 and it was a changed country. Much for the better!
 

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You're right, that is definately NOT South Africa..! I don't think we will EVER see scenes like this on our streets.

That looks alot like the civil war in Rwanda. Very unfortunately the political situation there is really bad, with the rebels being lead by baboons, and the government in the streets worst than stray dogs. The UN rather poke their nose in countries where there's oil and more benefits towards them, rather than doing the humanitarian thing and stop these kids from killing...anyway, that should be discussed in another forum...iwth the topic...MONKEYS OF THE WORLD!
 

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I am from SA

I live in Johannesburg and had a 308 GTSi. Unfortunately I had a small front end accident and whilst the car was at the agents being repaired I sold it. My first child was born and I was building a new house. Not the right time to have a Ferrari. It has been eight months now and I really miss the car. It is just a matter of time until my next one.
 

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Re: I am from SA

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I live in Johannesburg and had a 308 GTSi. Unfortunately I had a small front end accident and whilst the car was at the agents being repaired I sold it. My first child was born and I was building a new house. Not the right time to have a Ferrari. It has been eight months now and I really miss the car. It is just a matter of time until my next one.
Finally! Someone from Sunny SA,!

I'm facing a similar problem. Just built my new house, and wife is expecting. I am busy with a 360 Spyder replica, 90% finished, just needs to be smoothened and sprayed. I need to sell, wanted R300k finished...but I'll take R250k as is...will cost about R10k to paint.
It's on a 2001 MR2 Spyder, little mileage, I think 40 000 km. The wheels alone cost R20k, and hte car book value is R180k, so for R50k more you have a 360 Spyder replica!

Let me know if you're interested. I'm in Jo'burg too. :) 8)
 

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You know i have never been to south africa. I would like to ask, are there many black people who own ferraris there? Dont mean to sound stupid but i am just wondering, i am just as ignorant as the next westerner :) By the way i am am a black guy my self in case you dont already know.
 

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Pete04222 said:
Botto said:
There are a few other stable and peaceful nations in Africa, but nobody hears about them since the big news channels don't find them interesting, hehehe 8)
Name some of the peaceful and stable nations in Africa. The only one I can think of is Botswana (about the size of Texas), although a Boer might disagree with me. They are actually doing some pretty good things, have fair elections and are looking real good economically although the AIDS rate is pretty high.
Tunisia, Egypt, Morroco, Benin, Gabon, Ghana, Botswana (as you mentioned), Cameroon, Mozambique, Nigeria (in recent years)
 

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You know i have never been to south africa. I would like to ask, are there many black people who own ferraris there? Dont mean to sound stupid but i am just wondering, i am just as ignorant as the next westerner :) By the way i am am a black guy my self in case you dont already know.
I'd be interested to know that also. Now that racial equality is gaining a foothold in S.A. and you mention the blacks prospering also. Are they enjoying Ferrari ownership also?
 

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Botto said:
Pete04222 said:
Botto said:
There are a few other stable and peaceful nations in Africa, but nobody hears about them since the big news channels don't find them interesting, hehehe 8)
Name some of the peaceful and stable nations in Africa. The only one I can think of is Botswana (about the size of Texas), although a Boer might disagree with me. They are actually doing some pretty good things, have fair elections and are looking real good economically although the AIDS rate is pretty high.
Tunisia, Egypt, Morroco, Benin, Gabon, Ghana, Botswana (as you mentioned), Cameroon, Mozambique, Nigeria (in recent years)
I beg to differ with you on Nigeria. It is a hell hole. I've got buddies who work there. They all say to avoid it at all costs. My friend from Togo is not even willing to work in Nigeria. Some of the people from my company have been taken hostage over there in the past couple of years. Benin is the buffer between Togo and Nigeria. 2 of the countries in political turmoil. Nah. I have my doubts about Tunisia and Egypt. I'd have to look closely at the others before heading over. S.A. and Botswana are the only countries in Africa I'd hop on a plane to go to right now.
 

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Tunisia is one of the most progressive Islamic states in the world. Political freedom is not the best but the women's rights, education, healthcare, economic measures, actions against radical Islamic groups etc.. are commendable

As for Egypt, I know people who live/lived there and they never said really many bad things about it. A stable goverment, Islamic fundamentalists in check and growing economy.

As for the others on that list; most are small and isolated 'islands' of peace and positive economic growth. Now does that mean I would sell everything I own to move to Gabon? No, but they are still 'peaceful' and stable places.
 

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Do you have any pics of your car? It would be interesting to see (although not really my thing).

In response to the query of black ownership of Ferraris here in SA, I don't know the statistics but a friend of mine recently sold his Testarossa to a black guy.

We have only been a democratic country for 11 years now and as such, the redistribution of wealth has taken some time. That said, there is a booming car market here with sectors of the population having access to cash more than ever before - a real emerging middle class. In addition, there is an influx of black professionals who are very acqusitive - Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes are very popular yuppie transport!
 
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