Not any more. Ferrari recommend Shell.BrentC said:Anyone use Agip brand oils in their Ferrari? I've been told that it is reconmended by Ferrari, but people only seem to use Mobil 1. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Look at who sponsored Ferrari at the time... and THAT is the 'officially recommended oil.'Fred said:Ducati switched from Agip to Shell at about the same time.
It sounds like the mfg sopped getting free oil from Agip, and now gets free stuff Shell
That is a nice take. What is your opinion of mixing, say, a Redline like product with a Royal Purple/Mobile-1 high end type?There is a difference in oils, only 30% of a given amount of oil is "generic" base stock the other 70% is the manufacturer's additives. As one can imagine that allows quite a lot of room for variation. Nearly all oils you'll buy on the shelf of your local store are very similar, they have to meet standardized criteria that make them approved for every day cars. I personally prefer Motul or Redline brand oils. These are specialty oils and because of their volume are allowed to get around some of the regulations that reduce the amount of heavy particle additives that really help protect in extreme conditions.
Both of these brands of oils are also ester based, not Petroleum based which gives them the ability to stand up under temperature better. Both brands have "street" and "motorsport" oils to provide the best formulation for your needs. Oils like these which are intended for high performance use also contain silicate additives which help prevent "aeration' of the oil, where as most off the shelf oils do not. This aeration cause a few issues, some related to cavatation in oil pump creating an oil starvation issue, allowing oil to foam up and get drawn into the intake system and giving in accurate level readings.
A Ferrari engine isn't designed exactly like everything else, and it doesn't run like everything else. I personally don't believe in using generic oils that work in everything else.
If I recall correctly, even the recommended Shell oil had aeration issues and Ferrari revised the level checking procedure to accommodate that.
Very well said.I don't feel there is much to be gained. Both Redline and Motul are priced competitively with Mobil 1. I know guys with different types of cars mix and match gear oils to create a cocktail for suitable protection and nice smooth shifts, I don't see that the benefit would be the same in engine oils.
I'd also like to say that I don't consider my opinions to be gospel. I'm sharing my professional opinions based on understanding these products with commonly available information along side real world use. I also know that guys like Brian Crall and Dave Helms believe in these products over factory recommended ones due to better qualities, opinions that I value.
And interestingly when I think of Motul I think of late 80's early 90's Japanese cars. Specifically the Civic Si racecars that were sponsored by them. Maybe it's a region thing too. Mobil 1 seems to be the standard in the states where if it calls for a synth, cant go wrong with that.The shop I deal with goes with Motul. w/ smiles Jimmy