[Bart]

© 2005 ASMB From information taken from the Los Angeles Auto Show, it appears Ferrari may be looking into making a SUV to satisfy Fait’s need for better cash flow. Like Porsche, Ferrari has many who will buy anything with the Ferrari label. Look at the various non-auto items, which have the Ferrari logo on it from men’s cologne to surfboards. The company says it will not be ready until early 06 for the unveiling. It should have a V-9 with a two speed.

Got ya.



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[mchferrari]

Good one. :roll:

 

[Boxer]

Yes, the topic did get my attention, hoping that there was not a thread of truth to it.

 

[Andrew]

Good one Bart. I was starting to steam the more I read, but when I saw V9 I knew you were up to something.

 

[Dr. Bob]

Ferrari is looking at the options, but if they will produce one it will be called Maserati

 

[Dj Dirk]

well, that has been in the news this last few weeks, and i'll reply here what i've said at other places and to other people

Luca Di Montezemolo has said it a few times before already.
as long as he is the boss, there will be NO SUV, that's why there is Maserati.
and Maserati presented a study in 2002-2003 called Kubang, wich is an SUV

 

[Bart]

So, Fait should not have Ferrari develope a SUV like Porsche and Lambo?

8)

 

[mchferrari]

Correct

 

[Stradale]

well, that has been in the news this last few weeks, and i'll reply here what i've said at other places and to other people

Luca Di Montezemolo has said it a few times before already.
as long as he is the boss, there will be NO SUV, that's why there is Maserati.
and Maserati presented a study in 2002-2003 called Kubang, wich is an SUV

You'e absolutely right Dirk. SUV is left for Maserarti to develop. Even then they're quite reluctant. The Kubang was aborted in the last minute.

Ferrari has increased it's facilities to produce 5,000 cars annually from 4,500. Yet it is finding it difficult to cope with orders. According to Jean Todt, some markets are now on 3-year waiting list for the 430. There's simply no capacity to do anything else but sports cars.

Rumour is Ferrari will build 50 units of Enzo LM and they will be priced at USD1million each. Looks like Ferrari is going racing in Le Mans again!!!!!

 

[Dj Dirk]

where on earth did you pick that rumour up??

i haven't heard anything about that yet?
and that's a nice extra price over the MC12
but if they do that, then it might be very dangerous, the MC12 has proved already that it's reliable and fast.
taking both cars to Le Mans might be very interesting for us, but dangerous for the factory
BUT
if they have those cars at Le Mans, most likelly 2006 then THEN I'M THERE!!!!

 

[Stradale]

where on earth did you pick that rumour up??

i haven't heard anything about that yet?
and that's a nice extra price over the MC12
but if they do that, then it might be very dangerous, the MC12 has proved already that it's reliable and fast.
taking both cars to Le Mans might be very interesting for us, but dangerous for the factory
BUT
if they have those cars at Le Mans, most likelly 2006 then THEN I'M THERE!!!!

Success breeds success !!! The MC12 is made for the FIA GT series, so it will be focussed on that series. It has beaten everything in it's short stint in theFIA GT series at the end of the 2004 season. So Ferrari is probably now convinced that the Enzo LM can win the "Production GT Category" at Le Mans and decided to develop the Enzo LM from the MC12, not forgetting that the Maserati was originally developed from the Enzo. What goes around comes around.

Don't forget the man running Ferrari road cars is a die-hard racer. He sees things differently. After all he was the one that decided to build the MC12 and headed the Maserati Racing Programme when it started.

 

[Dj Dirk]

Success breeds success !!! The MC12 is made for the FIA GT series, so it will be focussed on that series. It has beaten everything in it's short stint in theFIA GT series at the end of the 2004 season. So Ferrari is probably now convinced that the Enzo LM can win the "Production GT Category" at Le Mans and decided to develop the Enzo LM from the MC12, not forgetting that the Maserati was originally developed from the Enzo. What goes around comes around.

Don't forget the man running Ferrari road cars is a die-hard racer. He sees things differently. After all he was the one that decided to build the MC12 and headed the Maserati Racing Programme when it started.

you already met with Jean Todt again, haven't you?

 

[Andrew]

Now that is something I will fly to Europe for. To see a number of Enzos on the track would be awesome. I see no reason why Ferrari shouldn't do this. F1 has become boring as it is

For now it will have to remain a rumor, but it is fun to speculate.

 

[Stradale]

you already met with Jean Todt again, haven't you?

No. I got this from a friend who was also there at the party. But I forgot to ask him where he got that rumour but he repeated it after a few days, so he was pretty convinced.

By the way one of my friend was at Maranello to collect his Scaglietti last December and he was a special guest of Jean Todt. He was able not only to visit the factory but to also visit Gastione Sportiva. And wait for it...... he bought an MC12 and then managed to get 1 Enzo at the expressed wish of Jean Todt at the official factory price of USD690,000, though that was from one of the last few "protoypes" stock. When Jean came here to Malaysia he provided him with a private jet to take Jean to Ipoh and then got him a helicopter for him and Michelle to fly off to a resort on the coast.

How's about that for connection?

 

[Lsportline43]

That would be nice if Ferrari really returned to Le Mans. Don't understand why they wouldn't. Doesn't Ferrari have the second most wins. Only Porsche has more I believe. Maybe Ferrari can finally surpass Porsche. Then there'll be a little "Le Mans War". That would be fun to witness.

As for Porsche and Lamborghini buildling SUVs I think they are well within their rights. I know Porsche was affliated with off roading before the big "SUV boom". Also Lamborghini built the LM2002 or something. It was a huge SUV. I think that was back in the 80's.

As for Ferrari I am not sure if they have ever been into off roading or four wheel drive for that matter. Can anyone confirm if Ferrari has or has not been off road?

P.S. Fellas please don't try converting your current Ferraris into off roading machines. I don't think the results would work out too well. :green:

 

[M550]

That would be nice if Ferrari really returned to Le Mans. Don't understand why they wouldn't. Doesn't Ferrari have the second most wins. Only Porsche has more I believe. Maybe Ferrari can finally surpass Porsche. Then there'll be a little "Le Mans War". That would be fun to witness.
As for Porsche and Lamborghini buildling SUVs I think they are well within their rights. I know Porsche was affliated with off roading before the big "SUV boom". Also Lamborghini built the LM2002 or something. It was a huge SUV. I think that was back in the 80's.
As for Ferrari I am not sure if they have ever been into off roading or four wheel drive for that matter. Can anyone confirm if Ferrari has or has not been off road?
P.S. Fellas please don't try converting your current Ferraris into off roading machines. I don't think the results would work out too well. :green:

Hi everyone,

It has been a while since I logged in but could not pass this. Ferrari did look unto the 4X4. There is still a concept car to be seen in Maranello. If I remenber, the car was based partly on the 400 series car. with the engine set offline from the center. I think the engine was on the right hand side, front, with the differential and front drice system on the left! r was it the other way around? In those days some 308's were engaged in rallying and Ferrari was looking for something to beat Audi Quattro with.

See you all,
Didier.

 

[Dr. Bob]

Yes, there were 2 prototypes built which were 4x4, called the 408

 

[Dj Dirk]

That would be nice if Ferrari really returned to Le Mans. Don't understand why they wouldn't. Doesn't Ferrari have the second most wins. Only Porsche has more I believe. Maybe Ferrari can finally surpass Porsche. Then there'll be a little "Le Mans War". That would be fun to witness.

As for Porsche and Lamborghini buildling SUVs I think they are well within their rights. I know Porsche was affliated with off roading before the big "SUV boom". Also Lamborghini built the LM2002 or something. It was a huge SUV. I think that was back in the 80's.

As for Ferrari I am not sure if they have ever been into off roading or four wheel drive for that matter. Can anyone confirm if Ferrari has or has not been off road?

P.S. Fellas please don't try converting your current Ferraris into off roading machines. I don't think the results would work out too well. :green:

The Lamborghini was called LM002 and was build from 1986 to 1992 with 328 cars.
and porsche also had an amazing offroader before
the 953 & the 959, both where made for the Paris Dakar, and they even won it on 1986
the best thing about that car it LOOKED like a Porsche

 

[Lsportline43]

Anyone have a picture of the Ferrari offroader? Did it look like a Ferrari or did it just look like something else.

 

[Dr. Bob]

Well, it is not really an offroader... It only has 4 wheel drive.