Except Ed converted, he drives a vette now!! I dont blame him either, i was speaking to a vette and ferrari owner at an FCA event and he said that vettes are much faster on track then ferraris of the same year. In fact, at lime rock, a Z06 with slicks was turning about the same times as 360 challege cars, and was faster than alot of F355 challenge cars! It must be that torque. That guy convinced me to go for a C5 as a first sports car, as they will be cheap once the next gen vette comes out.