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A good friend of mine is considering to buy his first Ferrari. He's especially interested in the 2 models 308 and 328. Since I have no personal experience on the 2 (having driven just the 308 QV twice) I thought to ask the specialists on this forum to give him a better idea about the pro's and con's.

He plans to use the car for 5' k's per year and is not sure if the GTS version would be a solid solution.

Any help possible ? Thank you all !:)
 

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It depends on what you want. All good 308's and 328's are great but they're not all the same.

1. Is performance important? There is a big difference between early 308's and later ones, particularly the 308GTSi is down on power. A 328 offers similar performance to the glassfibre 308. The GTS's are not as structurally sound as the GTB's, but for normal sporty driving there are no issues. There are no glassfibre 308 GTS's, BTW.
2. Are realiability and ease of maintenance important? The injection cars (308i, QV and 328) are a bit more like modern cars, and easier to drive. But the sound of carburettors is great in my ears, so it's all down to what you like.
3. Do you want ABS? Only late 328's feature ABS.
4. Is budget important? The glassfibre 308 is now more expensive than the 328. Not many were made and quite a few were raced so finding a good one is difficult. A good steel-bodied 308 is similar in price to the 328, maybe a little cheaper.
5. Do you like the '70ies or the '80ies? The interior of the 308 before the QV is distinctly 70ies. 328 is clearly a product of the '80ies. The outside has similar differrences. Some prefer 328, some 308.
6. Do you fit in the cars? The GTB's can be rather claustrofobic if you're over 6 foot. If you buy a GTS you may have to leave the roof at home if you're tall, as well, because it's stored behind the seats.
7. Be mindful that 328GTB's were relatively rare, 3x as many GTS's were made.
8. Use the FL buying guide! Plenty of information in there.

My first Ferrari drive was in a 328 GTS (my brother's) and I loved that car to bits. Any good example of the 308/328 range is a fantastic buy and they hold their value very well. A sports exhaust sounds great on the 328, BTW.

Hope this helps.


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Being an ex 328 GTS owner of 2 years (89 model with ABS), I can't recommend this particular model highly enough. It is the most refined of the 3x8 range, with the added security of ABS. Power steering and a bit more HP woold have been nice, but not the end of the world.
The GTS model is great for crusing the country lanes as you get that wind in your hair feeling. For a track car the GTB would probably be a better option.

I would have no hesitation in buying another 89 328 GTS if the right one came along.
 

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It depends on what you want. All good 308's and 328's are great but they're not all the same.

1. Is performance important? There is a big difference between early 308's and later ones, particularly the 308GTSi is down on power. A 328 offers similar performance to the glassfibre 308. The GTS's are not as structurally sound as the GTB's, but for normal sporty driving there are no issues. There are no glassfibre 308 GTS's, BTW.
2. Are realiability and ease of maintenance important? The injection cars (308i, QV and 328) are a bit more like modern cars, and easier to drive. But the sound of carburettors is great in my ears, so it's all down to what you like.
3. Do you want ABS? Only late 328's feature ABS.
4. Is budget important? The glassfibre 308 is now more expensive than the 328. Not many were made and quite a few were raced so finding a good one is difficult. A good steel-bodied 308 is similar in price to the 328, maybe a little cheaper.
5. Do you like the '70ies or the '80ies? The interior of the 308 before the QV is distinctly 70ies. 328 is clearly a product of the '80ies. The outside has similar differrences. Some prefer 328, some 308.
6. Do you fit in the cars? The GTB's can be rather claustrofobic if you're over 6 foot. If you buy a GTS you may have to leave the roof at home if you're tall, as well, because it's stored behind the seats.
7. Be mindful that 328GTB's were relatively rare, 3x as many GTS's were made.
8. Use the FL buying guide! Plenty of information in there.

My first Ferrari drive was in a 328 GTS (my brother's) and I loved that car to bits. Any good example of the 308/328 range is a fantastic buy and they hold their value very well. A sports exhaust sounds great on the 328, BTW.

Hope this helps.


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Many thanks Onno for your extensive description. very kind of you. I will deliver that right away to my friend.
How about your BB mood.....its getting nearer:)
 

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Being an ex 328 GTS owner of 2 years (89 model with ABS), I can't recommend this particular model highly enough. It is the most refined of the 3x8 range, with the added security of ABS. Power steering and a bit more HP woold have been nice, but not the end of the world.
The GTS model is great for crusing the country lanes as you get that wind in your hair feeling. For a track car the GTB would probably be a better option.

I would have no hesitation in buying another 89 328 GTS if the right one came along.
Dear Archie

Many thanks to you as well. Absolutely great to have competent people around like that. I appreciate your help!:)
 

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Dear Archie

Many thanks to you as well. Absolutely great to have competent people around like that. I appreciate your help!:)
You are very welcome:) I would also like to add, that the 328 is thoroughly reliable if it is properly maintained. Prior to buying mine, I was looking at a 348/355 as I thought the 3x8 was a bit dated. I spent about a year looking at dealers, researching on the internet. Everyone told me that for a first Ferrari and with a fairly limited budget, a well maintained post 88.5 328 is the perfect starter car.
Bullet proof reliability.
Teething problems with earlier 3x8 cars was well and truly sorted by 1989.
ABS
Cheaper servicing (cam belts)
328's have galvanised bodies and are less prone to rust than 308's.
Many 328's were bought by speculators in the late 80's and consequently there are more low mileage 328's than many other models.

Although it was a bit dated inside, it is a beautifully designed car (one of PF's finest creations), and 80's retro is making a comeback now;)

In two years the only problem I encountered was the offside diff baring needed replacing, this was done by the dealer under warranty. The car cost me nothing to run other than gas/oil and annual servicing.

The buyers guide on FL is great, but I also suggest you take a look at the follwing 3X8 specialists site as they have some very handy guides on what to look for.

http://www.walkersport.co.uk/308-328-buying-guide.htm

Let us know how your friend gets on, and tell him to join in here:)
 

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Many thanks again Archie !

I'm sure he will join...when he got his 328. BTW why have you sold your 328 GTS ?
 

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BTW why have you sold your 328 GTS ?
Short term cashflow problems caused by birth of second child (wife not working now), and downturn in my own business (mortgage broking). Cash is in the bank now incase I need an emergency fund, but if not I will buy another 328 GTS within the next 12 months.
 

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Suggest you friend drive both a early fiberglass 308 GTB and then a 88/89 328 GTS to decide which he prefers. IMHO, these two are the pick of the 3x8 range.
Thank you Boxer. He will try to do so.:)
 

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Many 328's were bought by speculators in the late 80's and consequently there are more low mileage 328's than many other models.
I'm not sure I agree with you Archie, not anymore. Up till about 6 years ago there were still quite a few around, but it's exceedingly rare to see one under 25,000 miles now.

How about your BB mood.....its getting nearer:)
I'm trying to cut my way through the maze of the DVLA and the RDW (UK and Dutch vehicle registration). There is blood everywhere...


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Short term cashflow problems caused by birth of second child (wife not working now), and downturn in my own business (mortgage broking). Cash is in the bank now incase I need an emergency fund, but if not I will buy another 328 GTS within the next 12 months.
Good luck Archie and make sure the money is piled up in the right bank or better with short term Treasuries:)
 

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I'm not sure I agree with you Archie, not anymore. Up till about 6 years ago there were still quite a few around, but it's exceedingly rare to see one under 25,000 miles now.



I'm trying to cut my way through the maze of the DVLA and the RDW (UK and Dutch vehicle registration). There is blood everywhere...


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I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully you will still be able to join the trip with the 365 BB ! I can't wait to hear THAT sound:)
 

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I'm not sure I agree with you Archie, not anymore. Up till about 6 years ago there were still quite a few around, but it's exceedingly rare to see one under 25,000 miles now.



I'm trying to cut my way through the maze of the DVLA and the RDW (UK and Dutch vehicle registration). There is blood everywhere...


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There are still a few around in the Uk, if you know where to look;)
Nick Cartwright
The Ferrari Centre
Rardleys
Walkersport

All have good low mile 328's in at the moment, I'm watching them all like a hawk at the moment, ready to pounce when the time is right:D

Hope you get the paperwork on the Boxer sorted
 

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There are still a few around in the Uk, if you know where to look;)
Nick Cartwright
The Ferrari Centre
Rardleys
Walkersport

All have good low mile 328's in at the moment, I'm watching them all like a hawk at the moment, ready to pounce when the time is right:D

Hope you get the paperwork on the Boxer sorted
We have 2 328's here in Switzerland offerrd with les than 10'000 Km. But I guess you look for a RHD ?!
 

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We have 2 328's here in Switzerland offerrd with les than 10'000 Km. But I guess you look for a RHD ?!
RHD is my preferred choice, but there is always a good supply in the UK. I think there were 292 ABS equipped RHD 328's made, whilst some would have gone to other RHD markets such as South Africa, Australia & NZ, the majority are in the UK. I've been watching the 328 market for 4 years, and there are always at least 10 good low mileage examples for sale at any one time. The average car changes hands every 2 to 3 years, so there will always be a supply if you are patient.

Now I'm waiting to see if the economic downturn has an effect on prices.
 
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