[Andrew]

I've worked and worked and worked on this list for two years and still have some errors and confusion. No one can ever seem to agree and or help me make sure the list I have is 100% accurate. Here is the list:

http://www.ferrariforum.net/models/compare/all.php?cat=model&order=asc&page=2

Those are all the 250 GT models I have. Someone told me to delete the 250 GT record from 1954-1955 but I think that is the same as the 250 GT TdF. I'm also told that the 250 GT Cabriolet entry can be deleted as I have it again as series I and II. OK that I agree with. Anything else missing?

 

[Dj Dirk]

you CAN NOT delete the cabriolet series
since those ARE 2 different cars
the Series I was build 1957-59 with only 40 cars
the Series II was build from 1959-62 with 202 cars

 

[DJ]

Dirk,
the thing I've told Andrew was: the 250 GT Cabriolet can be deleted from the register as they 're already been entered under: 250 PF Cabriolet serie I and 250 PF Cabriolet serie II.
Same thing for the 250 GT California: in register as 250 GT California, as 250 GT LWB California aluminium racing, as 250 GT LWB California steel street, as 250 GT SWB California aluminium racing, as 250 GT SWB California steel street.
Either 250 GT California will fit in one of the latter 4 model sections, wouldn't it? So why keep the overall name 250 GT California?
For the section 250 GT Berlinetta: I assume the 250 GT Tour de France would go there.
The section 250 GT: what would go in there? You already have the section 250 PF coupe.
Jurgen

 

[Dj Dirk]

well, i hadn't looked at the link yet, just replied to andrews post

as for as the California's go
i would keep 2 different then spererate them as LWB & SWB since those are different construction years, as the seperation for steel or alu body, that can be listed in the cars file

 

[DJ]

Dirk,
I would agree: the LWB and SWB are two different cars all together, the rest could be put with the car file.
What's your opinion on the other models: Cabriolet and 250GT?
I think the California's solution could be used with 250 GT SWB as well, don't you think?
Could also take a look at the s/n in the Californias, I think they're all 250 GT SWB.
DJ

 

[Andrew]

OK now I am understanding it. Thanks Dirk! So the official name was always "250 GT" but the factory made so many different versions people started to name them X Y and Z for their own purposes.

I've updated the list. Have a look at that link now and comment.

 

[Andrew]

OK now I am understanding it. Thanks Dirk! So the official name was always "250 GT" but the factory made so many different versions people started to name them X Y and Z for their own purposes.

I've updated the list. Have a look at that link now and comment.

 

[Dj Dirk]

ok, lets see what i got

250 Europa 18 build 1954
250 Mille Miglia 31 build 1953-54
250 Europa GT 35 build 1954-55
250 GT Berlinetta (TDF) 84 build 1954-59
250 GT Boano 88 build 1956-57
250 GT Ellena 51 build 1957-58
250 GT Cabriolet Series I 41 build 1955-59
250 GT Spyder California LWB 49 build 1957-59
250 GT Pininfarina Coupe 350 build 1958-60
250 GT Berlinetta (SWB) 165 build 1959-62
250 GT Cabriolet Series II 200 build 1959-62
250 GT Spyder California SWB 55 build 1960-62
250 GTE 2+2 950 build 1960-63
250 GTO 33 build 1962-63
250 GT Lusso 350 build 1962-64
250 GTO Series II 3 build 1964
250 Le Mans 36 build 1964-65

i believe that should be it
anybody feel to add some corrections?
these are just the "street" cars

 

[Andrew]

So this is a TDF correct?

http://www.ferrariforum.net/register/view.php?id=0539GT

If so I'll add the (TDF) it makes it more clear what model we are talking about.

 

[Dj Dirk]

yep, that's a TDF
a first series with the smooth back side
the 14 first cars had this bodywork, i still haven't seen one like that

 

[Andrew]

Another update:

http://www.ferrariforum.net/models/compare/all.php?cat=model&order=asc&page=2

So in this above list I can delete the entry "250 GT CALIFORNIA" because it is also listed under the SWB/LWB listings? DJ would you agree?

 

[Dj Dirk]

yep the california can go
and merge the steel & aly versions of the SWB & LWB

 

[DJ]

250 gt register

I would have to agree with Dirk, as Ferrari has made so many different models through the years, keep it as simple as possible. The version steel/ aliminium can be added in each car's.
As for the 250 GT Californiaress Delete
DJ

 

[Dj Dirk]

now these are just the normal cars

what do you wanna do with the speciale's

take for instance the 250 GT Interim Berlinetta
only 7 of those where build.
and it was a pre-SWB car
already had the looks of the SWB but on an LWB (TDF) chassis

 

[DJ]

I would suggest to add the Interims to the list. As for the other 250 speciales ?????
DJ

 

[Dj Dirk]

in case you are wondering about the 250 GT Interim's look

here's a pic of one, i still haven't seen one myself

note the longer hood and the different shape of the sidewindows behind the doors

oh, and if you are wondering the car in question is 1509GT