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Out of all Testarrosas which model is the BEST!!!!!

And i mean collection , investment , drive , wise???

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The first, non-cat. series with one mirror.

But construction wise the 512 TR is a big leap forward.
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I was going to say a late 512 TR with the non-welded differential part, so similar thoughts. The 85-87 did have those nice knock-off wheels, though.

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The first, non-cat. series with one mirror.

But construction wise the 512 TR is a big leap forward.
I did not understand what you meant by ¨non-cat¨

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I was going to say a late 512 TR with the non-welded differential part, so similar thoughts. The 85-87 did have those nice knock-off wheels, though.
But up until 86' the Testarrosas had the nice fly mirror!

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Pablo- Non-catalyst. I am pretty sure US early TRs had catalysts. Even our late carb 308s had catalysts. Those cute mirrors make you blind on the passenger side, one reason why they changed.

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Hi Pablo,

I'm biased but when I began my hunt for #64537, I knew there was only one kind of Testarossa I would be happy with - an early Single Mirror (or "mono specchio").

Sure, the 512TR is a leap forward in terms of performance but I wasn't buying the car under those pretenses. I wanted what truly captured the essence of what the name "Testarossa" conjured up in my mind. Also, every TR after 1986 has those stupid mouse belts and after 91 the rear decklid doesn't even say "Testarossa".

I'll be frank about the F512M - it doesn't appeal to me visually not one tiny bit. Yes, it's rare so it has that going for it from a collectibility front but at a very large premium.

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Hi Pablo,

I'm biased but when I began my hunt for #64537, I knew there was only one kind of Testarossa I would be happy with - an early Single Mirror (or "mono specchio").

Sure, the 512TR is a leap forward in terms of performance but I wasn't buying the car under those pretenses. I wanted what truly captured the essence of what the name "Testarossa" conjured up in my mind. Also, every TR after 1986 has those stupid mouse belts and after 91 the rear decklid doesn't even say "Testarossa".

I'll be frank about the F512M - it doesn't appeal to me visually not one tiny bit. Yes, it's rare so it has that going for it from a collectibility front but at a very large premium.

If you see/drive my car - you will fall in love.

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That's what I said... ...and your car looks...just.....phantastic !
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Hi Pablo,

I'm biased but when I began my hunt for #64537, I knew there was only one kind of Testarossa I would be happy with - an early Single Mirror (or "mono specchio").

Sure, the 512TR is a leap forward in terms of performance but I wasn't buying the car under those pretenses. I wanted what truly captured the essence of what the name "Testarossa" conjured up in my mind. Also, every TR after 1986 has those stupid mouse belts and after 91 the rear decklid doesn't even say "Testarossa".

I'll be frank about the F512M - it doesn't appeal to me visually not one tiny bit. Yes, it's rare so it has that going for it from a collectibility front but at a very large premium.

If you see/drive my car - you will fall in love.

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Jajaja....Rick , you are biased but i have to also admit that you are right! The single mirror is something very nice and on the other hand the mouse belts are horrible!

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Rick- Those mouse seat-belts were a pain in the neck. Does the 85 have inertia reels?

I actually prefer the look of the 512 TR to the earlier cars, but a lot of that is probably just the wheels. Plus they are a lot stronger than the earlier TRs. All the TRs and 512 TRs look great to me, though, and are uniquely exotic. The single mirror versions do stand out and draw a crowd.

I agree on the F512M. Lots of disparate design elements that do not coalesce into a unified whole like the TR and 512 TR.

Come to think of it, my 78 308 GTS had inertia reels, so of course the 85 did, as well.

Pablo- Production numbers:

TR, 7177, by far Ferrari's best selling 12 cylinder ever
512 TR, 2280
F512M, 500

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Rick- Those mouse seat-belts were a pain in the neck. Does the 85 have inertia reels?

I actually prefer the look of the 512 TR to the earlier cars, but a lot of that is probably just the wheels. Plus they are a lot stronger than the earlier TRs. All the TRs and 512 TRs look great to me, though, and are uniquely exotic. The single mirror versions do stand out and draw a crowd.

I agree on the F512M. Lots of disparate design elements that do not coalesce into a unified whole like the TR and 512 TR.

Come to think of it, my 78 308 GTS had inertia reels, so of course the 85 did, as well.

Pablo- Production numbers:

TR, 7177, by far Ferrari's best selling 12 cylinder ever
512 TR, 2280
F512M, 500

Terry, wasn't the chassis construction on the 512 TR very different (stronger) and more sophisticated than the chassis of the initial TR ?
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212- Brian Crall has said there were so many changes on the 512 TR they probably should have used a different model designator, like they did for the F512M. Mechanically, there were way more changes from the TR to the 512 TR than there were from the 512 TR to the F512M. Hard to see because of the styling changes for the F512M. Chassis, suspension (some front components shared with the F355), engine, etc all underwent drastic updates.

The performance jump from the TR to the 512 TR was also much larger than from the 512 TR to the F512M, which only really had detail changes. Performance on the latter two was very close, and R&T actually got better acceleration numbers with the 512 TR/F512M than with the 550 through the quarter mile.

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Guys , i think that historically and an icon in time the TR with the flying mirror is one hell of a car to collect apart from the true fact that the later ones were faster and stronger!

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212- Brian Crall has said there were so many changes on the 512 TR they probably should have used a different model designator, like they did for the F512M. Mechanically, there were way more changes from the TR to the 512 TR than there were from the 512 TR to the F512M. Hard to see because of the styling changes for the F512M. Chassis, suspension (some front components shared with the F355), engine, etc all underwent drastic updates.

The performance jump from the TR to the 512 TR was also much larger than from the 512 TR to the F512M, which only really had detail changes. Performance on the latter two was very close, and R&T actually got better acceleration numbers with the 512 TR/F512M than with the 550 through the quarter mile.
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I will try it this weekend!

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It is always a matter of taste again. I personnally don't like the look of the single mirror. Looked handicaped to me. Mouse belt are sure a pain too. The knock off wheels are nice but a problem when you want nicer or bigger wheels. A good compromise for all that would be a Canadian post 87. 2 mirrors, 5 lugs, and no mouse belts.

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" ... after 91 the rear decklid doesn't even say "Testarossa"."

Actually the '92 512TR (early ones, if not all) did say "Testarossa" as well as 512TR.

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I don't like the deck lid of the 512TR. I really like the side narrow grills on the TR and they are missing on the 512.
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Claude- Easy solution, buy an earlier one. They are cheaper at any rate, even if they do give up a lot of performance.

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