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LaFerrari vs P1

Saw the P1, LaFerrari, new Pagani along with a few others at the Geneva Auto Show yesterday. Car i was most impressed with.............................................. .McLaren P1. Lines are very clean. Cockpit is very cool and all driver focused. Driver's seating position is best I have experienced. looks to be a very worthy successor to the F1.
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Boxer,

It's interesting you chose the P1. Showed my wife LaFerrari and P1 pics yesterday, and she said the P1 looks much much better, and she's a graphic designer.

Can't wait for the inevitable comparison in magazines between the LaFerrari, P1, and possibly the new Pagani

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I like LaFerrari 10 times over the P1.

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P1 interior looks like it melted.
But I'm not biased or anything....

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P1 interior looks too much like the 12C to me. Really not a fan of the carbon door panels on the 12C.

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P1 interior looks like it melted.
But I'm not biased or anything....
Pictures do not do it justice. It was very cool to sit in.
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Pictures do not do it justice. It was very cool to sit in.
I agree. I would hate to bash one car over the other without seeing it in person. Both are amazing IMO

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Boxer- Just from the photos, I much prefer the Ferrari. The P1 looks like a Hot Wheels creation to me. Not helped by the fact I do not like black wheels.

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It's one hell of a comparison - similar to picking out the SI cover model.

Ferrari could take a few pointers from Mclaren - but they won't and we all know it.

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Boxer- Just from the photos, I much prefer the Ferrari. The P1 looks like a Hot Wheels creation to me. Not helped by the fact I do not like black wheels.
The brakes on the P1 are very interesting. They are next generation CCBs.
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Boxer- Are they Gen 3 Brembos like the GTO, or something different?

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Boxer- Are they Gen 3 Brembos like the GTO, or something different?
Something different.

Here is the info released so far:

The McLaren P1™ is powered by a substantially revised 3.8-litre twin-turbo V8 petrol engine coupled to a lightweight electric motor to produce a combined output of 916PS and 900Nm of torque. This combination gives instant, and relentless, acceleration which sees the sprint to 100km/h in less than 3 seconds, and on to a top speed of 350km/h.

The electric motor also offers completely emission-free driving for a distance in excess of 10km. The compact twin-powerplant is mounted to the carbon fibre MonoCage chassis, which tips the scales at just 90kg. With carbon fibre used for all body panels, and featured extensively within the cabin, the overall weight is kept to a minimum - dry weight is just 1,395kg. The ‘shrink-wrapped’ design of the McLaren P1™ is shaped to optimise aerodynamics, and through the large active rear wing and front aero flaps, can generate up to 600kg of downforce from 257kmh (161mph).

The revolutionary RaceActive Chassis Control (RCC) and bespoke Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres allow for cornering forces of 2g, while being subjected to 600kg of downforce, but without a compromise to the executive saloon car-like ride and handling when travelling at lower speeds. Also, a brake system developed with technical partner Akebono, never used on a production road car before, uses technology tried and tested in space to provide race car-like stopping performance.
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Two lateral G's?!?! That's incredible.

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David- Affirmative, but those tires will not last long with 1300 lbs of downforce. Be advised many street cars are now capable of 1.5+ g cornering, including Ferraris, Porsches, and Corvettes. These g forces are measured on race tracks or high speed test sites at speeds where aerodynamic forces come into play. The g readings you typically see in road tests are low speed on relatively small diameter test circles where aerodynamics have little effect. The P1 will come nowhere near 2 g forces during that kind of test. Probably around 1.05-1.2 g, still very good.

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David- Affirmative, but those tires will not last long with 1300 lbs of downforce. Be advised many street cars are now capable of 1.5+ g cornering, including Ferraris, Porsches, and Corvettes. These g forces are measured on race tracks or high speed test sites at speeds where aerodynamic forces come into play. The g readings you typically see in road tests are low speed on relatively small diameter test circles where aerodynamics have little effect. The P1 will come nowhere near 2 g forces during that kind of test. Probably around 1.05-1.2 g, still very good.
The German Magazine "Sport Auto" has a unmatched Way of assidous testing all these cars...also for testing lateral possible g forces (One of their 10 points Super Test program) so lets wait and see !

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Boxer- Interesting on the brakes. Nice to see Brembo has some competition. Especially with Mov'It just emerging from a bankruptcy reorganization. Luckily they have said they will complete my rear ceramic brake set.

212- Simple physics. Cornering forces increase as speed increases and aerodynamic downforces come into play on high speed corner transitions. Several comparison track tests here in the US have shown cornering forces above 1.5 g at speed for high end sports cars, while those same cars generated 0.9-1.10 g on low speed circles. Higher speed tracks would show even higher cornering forces. LaFerrari will likely generate similar numbers, even without the large rear wing.

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Looks like McLaren saved money on the interior design by just lifting it from the 12c in CF. Color scheme is awful in photos -- looks from the front like Pokeman and from the side a bumblebee.

Sorry I can't get excited about an 8 cylinder "hypercar" no matter how fast.
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I can appreciate the merits of CF, however something about the appearance gives me a "cold" sensation that I do not find terribly comfortable. Must be my old age.

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I like everything but for the LED's standing out - that goes for any exotic.
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Looks like McLaren saved money on the interior design by just lifting it from the 12c in CF.
As someone who has spent time in both cars, the P1s interior has a familiar feel, but is entirely different.

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