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F150 Breaks cover, sort of

I just noticed this on the Ferrari.com Holiday card- The links lead to this site

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Much more information and perhaps a less "muled" version on the slide show.


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So they named it after a best selling Ford truck?
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So they named it after a best selling Ford truck?
I agree with you Boxer , it would be a shame to name a Ferrari after a Ford truck!
In my opinion it would be a horrible mistake!!! I just can not belive it!

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Did Ferrari not already try to call the 2012 F1 car the F150 and run into trouble with Ford?

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Did Ferrari not already try to call the 2012 F1 car the F150 and run into trouble with Ford?
Yes they did.

Easy to understand Ford's issue. So many people go shopping for a pick up truck and end up taking home an F1 car by mistake.
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So many people go shopping for a pick up truck and end up taking home an F1 car by mistake.
I think the exact opposite happened to HRT F1 this year.

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I think the exact opposite happened to HRT F1 this year.
Are you referring to the rolling chicane?
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Are you referring to the rolling chicane?
That sums it up well!

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More concrete info here: New Details on Ferrari F150 Hit the Web after Private Preview, Said to have 950HP - Carscoop

F150 not the official name apparently, and I would indeed have been surprised if it had been.


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Must be said that in 2011 Italy celebrated 150 years of country union, given that it has been unified in 1861. In 2011 Ferrari wanted to celebrate it as well by naming the F1 car F150 but then Ford didn't agree...
Maybe the peoject for this new Enzo or F70 is started in 2011... Who knows...

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Maybe the peoject for this new Enzo or F70 is started in 2011... Who knows...
This car has been in development for many more years than that. I would guess they would have started back in 2007 already. It takes a long time to develop any car. The Huayra took 10 years. This will be at least 5.

It is probably named F150 for the moment because they wanted to introduce clients to it in late 2011 for delivery in late 2012. But that was delayed by about 9 months, not sure why.


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Actually, it is the internal Ferrari Chassis Type for the car. The FF is the Type F151 and the F12 is the Type F152. This tells you the Type F150 actually began development before either of those Ferraris, logical when you consider the complexity of the drivetrain and CF chassis. If they follow this series nomenclature, the replacement for the California is next in line and it will probably be the Chassis Type F153.

So the name had nothing to do with Italy, Ford pick-ups, or anything else. I was just the next number in the internal chassis sequence Ferrari has been using for decades.


458 F142, California F149 (pretty far along when adopted, apparently), Maranello F133, 348 F119

If you want to know the Chassis Type on your Ferrari, European owners can look at their ECE Homologation label and that states the Chassis Type..

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Actually, it is the internal Ferrari Chassis Type for the car. The FF is the Type F151 and the F12 is the Type F152. This tells you the Type F150 actually began development before either of those Ferraris, logical when you consider the complexity of the drivetrain and CF chassis. If they follow this series nomenclature, the replacement for the California is next in line and it will probably be the Chassis Type F153.

So the name had nothing to do with Italy, Ford pick-ups, or anything else. I was just the next number in the internal chassis sequence Ferrari has been using for decades.


458 F142, California F149 (pretty far along when adopted, apparently), Maranello F133, 348 F119

If you want to know the Chassis Type on your Ferrari, European owners can look at their ECE Homologation label and that states the Chassis Type..


Were those numbers also reflected on the 5 year marketing plan?

I know you posted it a few years ago on the other site but can't recall.

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Doug- Yes, they were, as you can see from this chart on the FF and F12, where they refer to the cars as the Type 151 and Type 152. This provides a reference system before the cars are actually given a formal name.

Note that on many cars, the engine type when first released is often the chassis type, so the 550 used the Type F133A engine and all the Maranellos and versions (Barchetta, 575M, Superamerica) were all Type F133 chassis, but the 612, which used Type F133F and Type F133H engines, had a different chassis type, which I do not know. Some owner of a Euro 612 will have to bail me out and look at his ECE Homologation Label and tell me the chassis type. Do not have it for the 599, either, but the F430s are all Type F136, 360s Type F131, 456s Type F116, etc. Many numbers missing in the middle and it would be fascinating to see what those Ferrari designs looked like initially.

More arcane details about Ferraris. Not sure when they started this numbering system, but maybe somebody knows.
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Taz, The chart was from a investors presentation a couple of years ago, do you have a more recent version?
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Boxer- No, that 10 slide presentation is all I have. It was a five year plan, so may not be updated too often. Lots has changed since then, though, like the acquisition of Chrysler and some cross-pond pollination of the two manufacturers.

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