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Looking for Swiss F40

Hopefully there is room for another F40 search thread but I thought the Swiss angle makes this request a bit more unique.

By way of introduction, I have been a life long Porsche driver but always had a hankering for a F40 as the ultimate supercar. Last week I got the opportunity to test drive one and it did not disappoint, it was without doubt the most fantastic car I have ever driven.

However, before I pull the trigger on such a large expenditure, I wanted to see if there are other alternatives in the Swiss market and understand better the pros/cons of buying outside Switzerland and importing/certifying.

I have heard about the difficulties of the certification process for the cars when new and wonder if anyone has gone through this process recently? There are VAT and other tax impacts of importing, which may be partially offset by VAT reclaim elsewhere (e.g. Germany) which can make a substantial difference to the cost.

My preference would be for an original Swiss car with a full history and would greatly appreciate any leads to source such a car or examples of recent transaction prices to get a better feel for where the market is now and how it has developed over the last year or so.

All input welcome and thanks in advance!
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Hopefully there is room for another F40 search thread but I thought the Swiss angle makes this request a bit more unique.

By way of introduction, I have been a life long Porsche driver but always had a hankering for a F40 as the ultimate supercar. Last week I got the opportunity to test drive one and it did not disappoint, it was without doubt the most fantastic car I have ever driven.

However, before I pull the trigger on such a large expenditure, I wanted to see if there are other alternatives in the Swiss market and understand better the pros/cons of buying outside Switzerland and importing/certifying.

I have heard about the difficulties of the certification process for the cars when new and wonder if anyone has gone through this process recently? There are VAT and other tax impacts of importing, which may be partially offset by VAT reclaim elsewhere (e.g. Germany) which can make a substantial difference to the cost.

My preference would be for an original Swiss car with a full history and would greatly appreciate any leads to source such a car or examples of recent transaction prices to get a better feel for where the market is now and how it has developed over the last year or so.

All input welcome and thanks in advance!
I am told you have to import only a later car and earlier cars are not possible to import.
But I could be wrong.!
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Non-cat versions are very difficult if not impossible to import, so that rules out a good proportion of early cars. Most cars here seem to be from 1991/92.
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Non-cat versions are very difficult if not impossible to import, so that rules out a good proportion of early cars. Most cars here seem to be from 1991/92.
Yes I think the early cars do not fit the Swiss regulations.
There is one for sale on autoscout.ch have a look!
You are a Swiss citizen or resident?
As that would make my mind up also.

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Hi Alps.
The F40 is a beautiful car; one day i've tried one, but not as the first driver, it was a beautiful day...
So, do you know "Ferro Rosso"?
He's already in Swiss, so you don't have any problems...
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Hopefully there is room for another F40 search thread but I thought the Swiss angle makes this request a bit more unique.

By way of introduction, I have been a life long Porsche driver but always had a hankering for a F40 as the ultimate supercar. Last week I got the opportunity to test drive one and it did not disappoint, it was without doubt the most fantastic car I have ever driven.

However, before I pull the trigger on such a large expenditure, I wanted to see if there are other alternatives in the Swiss market and understand better the pros/cons of buying outside Switzerland and importing/certifying.

I have heard about the difficulties of the certification process for the cars when new and wonder if anyone has gone through this process recently? There are VAT and other tax impacts of importing, which may be partially offset by VAT reclaim elsewhere (e.g. Germany) which can make a substantial difference to the cost.

My preference would be for an original Swiss car with a full history and would greatly appreciate any leads to source such a car or examples of recent transaction prices to get a better feel for where the market is now and how it has developed over the last year or so.

All input welcome and thanks in advance!
212 Export should be able to help.
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Hi Alps.
The F40 is a beautiful car; one day i've tried one, but not as the first driver, it was a beautiful day...
So, do you know "Ferro Rosso"?
He's already in Swiss, so you don't have any problems...
If i can, i post the link: Vintage & Classic Cars For Sale | Used Ferrari Cars For Sale | Car Selling Advice
He's a good seller.

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Thanks Matt, have contacted them. They have two on the website, both imports.
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Thanks Matt, have contacted them. They have two on the website, both imports.
....and probably not imported to Switzerland yet ?!
Anyway with this dealers, I would suggest to check every detail twice..and vice versa.

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Does Nicky Hassler have one?
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The cars on Autoscout I have either seen or don't fit what I'm looking for. Don't see any F40's on Nick Hasler's website but maybe worth a call - thanks Boxer.

I am more looking for a car that may be for sale but the owner hasn't got around to advertising or displaying it.

I am also looking for a car to drive, not sit in the garage, so would actually prefer a higher km example as long as the history is good.

Thanks for the input so far!
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Thanks Matt, have contacted them. They have two on the website, both imports.
Yes, infact they have two F40.

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....and probably not imported to Switzerland yet ?!
Anyway with this dealers, I would suggest to check every detail twice..and vice versa.
Sure you're more informed that me, but why do you say this?
Do you have had bad experiences with them?

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Yes, infact they have two F40.



Sure you're more informed that me, but why do you say this?
Do you have had bad experiences with them?

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No particular bad experience, I never bought a car from them. However I made the experience some years ago that information needed to be gathered together for a particular car in a rather exhausting way. Again only thing I'm suggesting is: check and check again. But thats something one should generally do, especially with F40's, as they not always are what they look like. My 2 cents.

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Not exactly what you are looking for but I have been told this is an excellent very clean one owner ex Italy F40:

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No particular bad experience, I never bought a car from them. However I made the experience some years ago that information needed to be gathered together for a particular car in a rather exhausting way. Again only thing I'm suggesting is: check and check again. But thats something one should generally do, especially with F40's, as they not always are what they look like. My 2 cents.
You're right, especially with the old and much expensive cars.
For example to see one car, I'm always gone with a my expert friend of Ferrari...

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It's been a while since the last post but the search continued exhaustively through 2013 and I finally took delivery of an F40 two weeks ago. Have put about 700km on it since and it is all I had hoped for and more.

Took a run yesterday up to Germany on the autobahn towards Stuttgart then back to CH via the Black Forest. A delight to drive with the full range of qualities on display - brutally fast, precise, rewarding, easy through the city (except for the road works), comfortable and special every moment of the trip. And that sound!

Am planning to give it plenty of use this year when the passes open up as well as a driving event of some sort to explore the capabilities of the car.

Thanks to all for their input and good luck to anyone else looking to fulfil an F40 dream. There are cars out there and persistence can pay off. Photo from yesterday attached.
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Congratulations. Those are some very good driving roads (and agree the roadworks are the only thing that ruin it).

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Very nice. Hope she turns out to be a good one for you,

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