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post #1 of 24 Old 03-21-2012, 08:15 AM Thread Starter
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In desperate search for a F50 speed sensor

Somebody here in Switzerland is trying to find a speed sensor for its F50 (its not me, thanks God). His Ferrari dealer tried the official way directly adressing the factory but the part is not anymore available. So the dealer asked me for help (!)
I called Ricambi America, Eurospares, Maranello parts and also Ferrari Motor Service in Modena, that one normally a "lender of last resort" with a worldwide databank.....without success. Anybody else any idea.....?

Ferrari Motor service told me that sometimes when a dealer is asking for a part then its officially out of production. However if a client with a car on hand is directly asking the factory, then they decide to reproduce it. Funny but could that be true ?

Thanks for reply. Again I'm just trying to help people but who knows down the road even Boxer and myself may need such (that) part ? Thanks !
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Here the pictures of that speed sensor part...its the screw within the gear box.
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Is the speed sensor interchangeable with US cars? If so, find the guy who bought this car and see if he's open to selling it. Since it's likely the recently purchased FBI-wrecked F50 will be tracked - or at the very least restored or modified - he might be open to selling you the part and having a new one fabricated for his own car.

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Is the speed sensor interchangeable with US cars? If so, find the guy who bought this car and see if he's open to selling it. Since it's likely the recently purchased FBI-wrecked F50 will be tracked - or at the very least restored or modified - he might be open to selling you the part and having a new one fabricated for his own car.
I don't know but would assume that this part is interchangeable between US/Euro versions as the gauges can be changed from miles to kilometers and vice versa as well.
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I don't know but would assume that this part is interchangeable between US/Euro versions as the gauges can be changed from miles to kilometers and vice versa as well.
I think Champagne612 is closer to knowing who bought it than anyone else. See if he can get closer for you.

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With exception of the connection it looks exactly like the speedo sensors used since about 1980 in all pre 360 cars. Have them take it out, get a 355 sensor and compare them for length. If length is the same a very easy wiring adaptation is needed.


Frankly I am more than a little shocked that none of his technical types has not already done that.

They need to put down their parts books and put on their thinking hats.
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I'd suggest trying to figure out what exactly makes this a unique part. Is it the length, the threads, the plug, etc?

From there a substitute can probably be found if the owner is willing to live with a less than perfectly original in every way car.
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With exception of the connection it looks exactly like the speedo sensors used since about 1980 in all pre 360 cars. Have them take it out, get a 355 sensor and compare them for length. If length is the same a very easy wiring adaptation is needed.
I was thinking the same thing.
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Does not seem like the end of the world since all it does is power the speedometer. Part number 150830 and it looks very similar to 149095, like Brian said, fitted to the 456, 512 TR, F512M, and F355. If one slightly smaller than the F50 part can be found, a helicoil adapter might work. There are also sensors for other Ferraris that do not thread in but are bolted on. Should be easy to make an adapter for one of those if it will work.

Last one I bought for my 308 cost $80, I see the replacement is $558 for the one that superceded it and was originally for the BB. Prices are getting really silly.

Can anyone rebuild these things? Cannot be that complicated.

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With exception of the connection it looks exactly like the speedo sensors used since about 1980 in all pre 360 cars. Have them take it out, get a 355 sensor and compare them for length. If length is the same a very easy wiring adaptation is needed.


Frankly I am more than a little shocked that none of his technical types has not already done that.

They need to put down their parts books and put on their thinking hats.
WOW, have not considered that possibility...great idea and at least worthwhile a try. Sorry about...but as you said those ideas should come from the specialists, although they may have checked that already. Will let you know about. Many thanks.
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Does not seem like the end of the world since all it does is power the speedometer. Part number 150830 and it looks very similar to 149095, like Brian said, fitted to the 456, 512 TR, F512M, and F355. If one slightly smaller than the F50 part can be found, a helicoil adapter might work. There are also sensors for other Ferraris that do not thread in but are bolted on. Should be easy to make an adapter for one of those if it will work.

Last one I bought for my 308 cost $80, I see the replacement is $558 for the one that superceded it and was originally for the BB. Prices are getting really silly.

Can anyone rebuild these things? Cannot be that complicated.
Terry, thanks for your thoughts as well. It seems really funny that none of the parts distributers nor the official Ferrari dealer with a big maintenance/mechanical part mentioned the idea. So all these types of cars (456/512/355 ) are offered to be sold there anyway. Should be easy without ordering new parts to just find out by simply trying to replace and see if it works. And as you said a helicoil adapter may do the fitting. Thanks guys for the idea !!
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Does not seem like the end of the world since all it does is power the speedometer. Part number 150830 and it looks very similar to 149095, like Brian said, fitted to the 456, 512 TR, F512M, and F355. If one slightly smaller than the F50 part can be found, a helicoil adapter might work. There are also sensors for other Ferraris that do not thread in but are bolted on. Should be easy to make an adapter for one of those if it will work.

Last one I bought for my 308 cost $80, I see the replacement is $558 for the one that superceded it and was originally for the BB. Prices are getting really silly.

Can anyone rebuild these things? Cannot be that complicated.


$200 for a 355 and fits all the cars we spoke of.
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Brian- Good to know for the 308 crowd. I guess that means it fits the BB, too.

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Brian- Good to know for the 308 crowd. I guess that means it fits the BB, too.
Yeah, as soon as I saw the pic my first though was "that looks like a 308 sensor with a different connector on it.
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Brilliant suggestions. The wealth of knowledge here is amazing.
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Will be able to tell you later today if it worked ! Thanks again. Impressiv knowledge floating around here !
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$200 for a 355 and fits all the cars we spoke of.
When I picked up "D" yesterday, I asked them about the remains of that problem (have not heard from them since). They said that they ordered a 355 speed sensor but that one was to short and did not work. I asked them then about any adaptation effort but they denied it and said they want first to ask their customer how he wants to proceed on this (?)
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212- I assume this is not your car?

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212- I assume this is not your car?
No no, its not my F50. But I got knowledge about this issue as the F-dealer contacted me to ask if I would know any possible point of sell to get that defect part. That F50 belongs to a new foreign client of them.
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