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post #1 of 34 Old 01-23-2012, 11:57 AM Thread Starter
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Export of F50 to the US

What are the issues that make impossible for somebody to export an F50 to the USA???

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Pablo- Not sure, but after the vehicle is 21 years old, it gets a free pass from the EPA. 1995+21= 2016 for an F50. Can you wait four years? F40s are already exempt, as are 288 GTOs.

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Pablo- Not sure, but after the vehicle is 21 years old, it gets a free pass from the EPA. 1995+21= 2016 for an F50. Can you wait four years? F40s are already exempt, as are 288 GTOs.
Are you 100% sure? Because some people were telling me that is not 21 but 25 years!

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Pablo- No, he told you if a car was over 25 years old, the import tax was low. Has nothing to do with EPA standards.

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Pablo- No, he told you if a car was over 25 years old, the import tax was low. Has nothing to do with EPA standards.

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Taza ,you are right! In If the vehicle is at least 21 years old, there are no EPA compliance requirements upon importation. But what about safety compliance , etc... It is some what confusing and complicated. People are saying that it would be impossible to import an F40 european version.; etc......

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Pablo- For a DOT exemption, the car must be 25 years old.

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Pablo- For a DOT exemption, the car must be 25 years old.

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Tazan , i think you are 100% right. So , do you think there is an opportunity to buy an F40 in europe in nice condition and bring it in to the US?

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Pablo- Affirmative, and Boxer or 212 really have the pulse of that market. If one of them could recommend a good broker, that would probably be your best bet. All of the 1315 cars were LHD, so it would not make much difference where it originates. It might be possible to update a later F40 to DOT standards at reasonable cost, since most of them are EPA exempt and all will be by the end of next year.

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The only F40s you can export into the US are 1987 models at this point. Getting a later one to comply with DOT standards would be near impossible.

On the F50s, you can import a 1995 model year car only and modify it to DOT standards. Conversion will run $75-100k. 1996 and 1997 F50s are not eligible.
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Boxer- What is so tough about the DOT on an F40 and why are later F50s not eligible for import? If you have covered this before, I will go find it.

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The only F40s you can export into the US are 1987 models at this point. Getting a later one to comply with DOT standards would be near impossible.

On the F50s, you can import a 1995 model year car only and modify it to DOT standards. Conversion will run $75-100k. 1996 and 1997 F50s are not eligible.
Yes , you are right! This is exactly what i was told today by somebody in California that deals with this matters.

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About 10 years my dad sold his European f50 which was converted and registered in California ( which is one of the most stringent of states if I am not mistaken). His car was car no 32 and the guy that bought it explained that the first 40 cars are eligible ( or easier ) to import into the states not sure if something on the car changed or if the date of production in relation to a certain emissions regulation changed to differentiate the earlier cars.

It was sold through Sheehan maybe some more info there on the description see link.

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if the date of production in relation to a certain emissions regulation changed to differentiate the earlier cars.
Emission standards changed from 1995 to 1996. All F50s meet the earlier but not the later standards which is why only 1995 models can be brought into the US.

The flip side of this is 96 - 99 F355s can be brought into the US and converted to meet DOT/EPA standards but 94-95 F355s are not eligible.
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About 10 years my dad sold his European f50 which was converted and registered in California ( which is one of the most stringent of states if I am not mistaken). His car was car no 32 and the guy that bought it explained that the first 40 cars are eligible ( or easier ) to import into the states not sure if something on the car changed or if the date of production in relation to a certain emissions regulation changed to differentiate the earlier cars.

It was sold through Sheehan maybe some more info there on the description see link.

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Is your father's F50 still in the US?
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I have been offer an F50 US version in California with low mileage and mint condition , for 850K. What´s the opinion of you guys?????

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Pablo- Sounds great. Will let some more qualified individuals comment on the price, but nice you found one.

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Pablo- Sounds great. Will let some more qualified individuals comment on the price, but nice you found one.
Thank you Tazan , but need some advice on numbers guys!!!!!!

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Pablo- That would be Boxer and 212, who are both asleep, hopefully.

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Uuups wake up call.
F50 in mint condition, low mileage $ 850 seems o.k. However, prices in the US for US spec F50's seem to be at least 25 -30% above equivalent Euro spec F50 prices. As much as I have seen in the last couple of years, this "spread" was almost always the case.

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I have been offer an F50 US version in California with low mileage and mint condition , for 850K. What´s the opinion of you guys?????

Price seems quite fair for the US market. I would get the Chassis number and run the history on it to confirm mileage as a first step.
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