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Jimmy..need your help -- F 50 video

Dear Jimmy, I fell over an interesting F50 video, produced in Japan. Its several years old. A japanese racing driver explains the F50 and drives it with "verve" on the Suzuka racetrack in Japan. After that, about 12'15'' into the video, the racing driver makes the summary comment about his experience with the car.
Unfortunately all in Japanese.

Would you be kind enough to translate me his overall rating and arguments ? That would be veeeeery nice of you !!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DftXy...eature=related
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Dear Jimmy, I fell over an interesting F50 video, produced in Japan. Its several years old. A japanese racing driver explains the F50 and drives it with "verve" on the Suzuka racetrack in Japan. After that, about 12'15'' into the video, the racing driver makes the summary comment about his experience with the car.
Unfortunately all in Japanese.

Would you be kind enough to translate me his overall rating and arguments ? That would be veeeeery nice of you !!

Hope the link works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DftXy...eature=related
Hello Rolf. I can just feel the excitement boiling over up there in Swiss !

I went over the video once and that driver is an authority (despite the fact that his appearance is just an average joe). His comments were very accurate and professional, based on years of experience driving numerous test cars.
Did you want me to try to translate the whole video ? If so, can you give me a little time to digest first ? If you are in a hurry, I shall do my best to get the important points mentioned and give you a digested version. Thanx. w/ smiles Jimmy

PS. Amazing machine, that F50. I can understand perfectly why this was your dream Ferrari.
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Hello Rolf. I can just feel the excitement boiling over up there in Swiss !

I went over the video once and that driver is an authority (despite the fact that his appearance is just an average joe). His comments were very accurate and professional, based on years of experience driving numerous test cars.
Did you want me to try to translate the whole video ? If so, can you give me a little time to digest first ? If you are in a hurry, I shall do my best to get the important points mentioned and give you a digested version. Thanx. w/ smiles Jimmy

PS. Amazing machine, that F50. I can understand perfectly why this was your dream Ferrari.
Dear Jimmy

Many thanks for approaching that video so fast. Yes please, take all the time you need, no hurry from my side. I'm sure Boxer would be equally interested in what the expert has to say. Many thanks in advance ! That is very, very kind of you.
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Great video. Thanks for posting. The McLaren F1 video by the same group (that's on the right side when watching the F50 one) is pretty cool as well.
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Yes, they are a great group of driver/reporters and produced many reports over 20 years. Just to bad they did not provide any translation.
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Okay Rolf, here's my rough, choppy translations. There are four parts to this video. A bit long, hope it fits.
PART 1 INTRODUCTION
00:03 1998 June Issue/ Ferrari F50/driver Kurosawa Gun/ location Suzuka
If F40 was the final culmination of Enzo, the F50 is the answer of
Ferrari under the new leadership of Montezemolio (sp ?).
F40 was an on road racing machine. F50 was focused as onroad
supercar. Nevertheless, F50 was made with F1 in mind and this is
obvious when looking at the catalogue details and specs.
01:00 INTERIOR: Got A/C...one cannot see any trace of need to sweat;
carbon interior panels emanate beauty; conally (sp?) leather bucket
seats even got reclining feature...all for on road creature comfort.
01:40 In order to accomodate the massive V12 N/A engine, overall
dimensions slightly larger than F40. Short stroke N/A unit has a
spec of 520HP/8500rpm 48.0kg/6500rpm, yet amazingly, "easy" to
handle despite the awesome specs.
02:00 Engine & transmission were designed as integral framework
structure of the chassis which is the same design cocnept as F1.
02:10 1995 debut and finally the opportunity to test the potential of F50
at Suzuka.

PART II MECHANISM CHECKPOINTS (chat by the two)
02:18 "What do you think?" It is well made with carbon. Fabrication is
just like race cars, but it is put together beautifully.
02:50 Carbon is upt to here and in front is crush zone. Tiny storage space
and there is no spare tire, juts some inflatable kit for emergency
flat tire situation. Radiators look large enough which is good for
conditions in Japan's road reality.
03:18 Cannot see the suspensions directly, but there's height adjuster
right below here and only for the front.
03:30 Ferrari made this with no budget limit in mind. Engine, diff,
transmission were designed and incorporated as part of the
framework, just like race cars.
03:44 (Subtitle) Dry weight of engine: 198kg. Aluminum alloy pistons,
titanium alloy conrods.
03:50 (Younger guy) I used to drive Porsche Group C cars and the layout
is exactly the same here. Push rods F/R suspensions/dampers/
04:08 Look at the arms here, which is made more rigid and thick compared
to F40.
04:13 Rubber bushings used here,... necessary to allow vibrations release
04:35 Engine is V12, it is N/A,...but it looks heavy, ...unavoidable probably
due to various regulations.
04:46 Final impression: Beautifully made, art work,...but, if the actual
ride is as good as the total package of styling/construction, then
this F50 is a winner.
05:19 Seats: comes with two choices of color in red, red/black; two
choices in size: large, narrow. Cost 1.2 to 1.3 mil JPY.
Seats are welll made and looks pretty. Adjustable too, A/C,...
much more creature comforts than F40. Made as on road use in
mind.
05:35 My own assumption and theory that this seat desgn, frames and
paddings were made this way to absorb the engine vibrations,
while the suspension vibrations were taken care by the
aformentioned rubbe bushings,...all for creature comfort.

06:20 PART III F50 FULL ATTACK: Frist ride, first impressions
07:20 Very stable, very nice.
07:54 Very solid and rigid.
07:57 8400rpm
08:10 My first ride in F50, very impressed. Good points,..rigid, firm &
solid, yet suspensions moving well, resulting in well planted ride
overall. Cornering is solid and stabel as rock. This is not a racing
car, but a virtual racing car. No softness whatsover like other on
road cars. Just firm, solid with ample power, responsive N/A great
engine. This was my first ride ever, not knowing what to expect
thus I limited to 8400rpm, but it can go further north easily. Also
like the torque feel which is flat.
09:40 Wow, is F50 this great ? I am impressed.

09:45 PART IV: FULL ATTACK
09:55 1~2 Corners
10:02 OMG !!!
10:10 S Corner. He's just swearing/ mumbling to himself.
10:24 Reverse embankment. "Keeps on going".
10:30 Dunlop Corner
11:10 Hairpin
11:20 Spoon
11:35 West straight
11:50 130R
12:10 Final corner

12:20 PART V FINAL COMMENT
12:21 What was so great ?... Very rigid, due to design using engine as
framework and looking at this design, that was to be expected, but
it was better than the initial impression.
13:20 Compared to F40, F50 was made as on road car in mind,
suspension strokes were good,...even with these normal sports
tires, stability was outstanding going in/out of corners.
Rigid but firm, yet not jirky (ie) "smooth" and agile.
14:20 Great gear ratios. N/A torque was flat and excellent.
15:20 Before the start, I was a bit concerned of excessive vibrations,
but it was not a problem, much less than thought.
"Easy" to ride,...well made and excecuted supercar. It was FUN.

(Whew....that is my comment, Rolf). Now I feel like a drink (altho I rarely drink).

That is it. Hope this would be of some help. Pardon my errors and choppy wordings.

w/ smiles Jimmy
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Dear Kimmy

I'm very deeply in debt to you. Many, many thanks for that big effort to write all those comments down. You are very kind. I will plan to "equalize" my debt when meeting in London for FLED. Thanks again!
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Sorry "Jimmy" that should read. Excuse me, still early in the morning
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Sorry "Jimmy" that should read. Excuse me, still early in the morning
I kinda like Kimmy !!!

No problem, Rolf. Glad to be of some use.

That particular driver is a well established guy (as you can see from his driving skills) an he was raving saying that F50 was an awesome car.

Very soon you can drive like that, well at least with a little less furvor, I hope. w/ smiles Jimmy
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I kinda like Kimmy !!!

No problem, Rolf. Glad to be of some use.

That particular driver is a well established guy (as you can see from his driving skills) an he was raving saying that F50 was an awesome car.

Very soon you can drive like that, well at least with a little less furvor, I hope. w/ smiles Jimmy
Dear Jimmy

I will not drive like him, never. He's a professional .....
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