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Ferrari ff motor 300 miles

WE BOUGHT THIS MOTOR FOR A PROJECT, LONG STORY SHORT:

ITS NOT HAPPENING SO NOW WE HAVE IT UP FOR SALE, I APOLOGIZE FOR POSTING THIS HERE, BUT I WAS NOT SURE WHERE TO POST IT, SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO MOVE IT.

THE ENGINE ONLY HAS 300 MILES, FERRARI OF FT. LAUDERDALE WHERE THE ONES WHO PULLED THE MOTOR OUT. THEY DIAGNOSED IT WITH A BENT ROD, BUT IT WILL BE FIXED BY FERRARI AS SOON AS WE FIND A BUYER.

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Wonder how you bend a rod on a Ferrari with DCT? Hard to over-rev one with all the nannies watching.

Would look great in my 575M, but....

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Surprised Ferrari didn't want the engine back to analyse.
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Wonder how you bend a rod on a Ferrari with DCT? Hard to over-rev one with all the nannies watching.

Would look great in my 575M, but....
Would look great in my lounge room with half an inch of tempered glass over it!

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Surprised Ferrari didn't want the engine back to analyse.
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Thanks, The engine water logged, Ferrari thought about everything else but they forget to raise the air induction just a hair. It has ohh well, only 5k to fix meaning not too much damage there!

I quoted this engine at $110 grand.

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Alan- Makes sense. Hydraulic lock is the only way that usually happens. Engine is worth more than my car.

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Alan, out of curiosity, which cylinder has the bent rod?

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Alan, out of curiosity, which cylinder has the bent rod?
Not sure, i will double check. It shouldve been on the post. My apologies.

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Alan- Makes sense. Hydraulic lock is the only way that usually happens. Engine is worth more than my car.

itd make your car ! a whole lot of fab work though. It'd be insane, with a shorter gear ratio similar to the lexus isf 8 speed rwd

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I was wondering how they power the accessories with the spline drive on the front of the crank dedicated to the front axle's gearbox... Looks like they power the serpentine belt with that other shaft to the left (when looking at the engine from the front). Interesting stuff.

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Good luck with the sale. It's a big engine for (presumably) big money?... no asking price so it's tough to tell.
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Bret- Looks like there might be a short chain drive down there like the one that drives the oil pump on the Maranellos.

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Alan although I don't have a use for the engine I want to thank you for those great pictures, for gear heads such as myself its like Christmas. Would make a great boat engine I would think.

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I am just at the rebuild stage of an FF engine with exactly the same issue. x2 bent conrods + x1 new cylinder liner. Unless this engine was revving high at the time the water went in there shouldnt be any more damage than mine. Amazingly the two new conrods were under 100 GBP ($150) each and the liner not much more. Very simple to change. I have also found the timing to be very straightforward to reset... just an amazing engine brilliant engineering and a delight to work on.

Oh good news is that thanks to my perseverance Ferrari have found the Torque settings .. long story...

So if anyone needs two for that dual screw power boat i have he second one for you :0)

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I have a spare 360 Challenge engine that needs a rebuild and thinking about converting it to a table.

This make me feel a whole lot better about it.

Good luck with the sale but I can't imagine what someone would do with it.
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Perhaps MK_E can modify that in a ????? wait for it.......

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Perhaps MK_E can modify that in a ????? wait for it.......
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Wonder how you bend a rod on a Ferrari with DCT? Hard to over-rev one with all the nannies watching. .


I am dramatically underqualified technologically speaking and demonstrating it by this question; but do not all our [later] Ferraris have rev limiters that should prevent this? Or is the cause other than exceeding the dreaded redline?

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Fluids simply don't compress. So, if the engine sucks in a significant quantity of water due to a low intake tract, the rev limiter isn't even part of the equation...Ever notice on the Range Rover safari vehicles the "snorkel" sticking up high almost at roof level? The purpose is to suck in air versus water if they happen to be transversing a stream. Evidently on the FF, the air intake is a tad low.

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