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360 to 430 Scuderia Modification

I have read quite a lot of this thread and it was very helpful in getting my 360 upgraded.

I hope you like what I have done so far. I am putting a Scuderia rear end inc exhaust on very soon, for now I have the challenge rear and exhaust, and it sounds amazing.

Sorry my pictures are not great quality, I will get some better ones soon,

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Oh I thought some may like my Standard F430 rims in carbon fiber?
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Paul, welcome to FerrariLife

Wow, what a transformation! Is that a F360? Without the view on the engine, I would never have guessed! Or is it a F430 with a 360 engine ? Please tell us more...
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From the 4th last pic, it looks like 360 engine in a 430 chassis to me...
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Why in the world would you spend the money to do such a thing?

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Waitaminute....now I'm confused. Yes. It does look like a 360 engine. Omg....you are crazier than me!
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Why in the world would you spend the money to do such a thing?
Exactly what I was thinking, why?

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Lets not be too quick to judge. At least it's not an MR2 under the skin. It's a 360. But the thing is how in the world did he manage to fit all that in? The effort by itself is worthy of a round of applause.

Paul. Please share more.
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Hi thanks for any good comments, it is a 2000 F360, I got it damaged and was to re panel it, then decided to convert it to a F430, the bodies and fittings are exactly the same, the F430 is basically a 360 in most ways, with very minor cosmetic changes and a bigger engine and Ediff.

I did the conversion firstly because I can, and secondly for when I visit Ferrari shows etc to let people see the quality of the work etc, I am going to be doing a few F430 - Scuderia body conversions in the near future,. I have a comprehensive kit, inc genuine front / rear bumpers grilles, carbon rear light section, side skirts, full Scuderia exhaust system, inc valves, basically everything to complete the Scuderia transformation at a very very good price, (fitted and painted 1000 extra) there are also all the parts available as patern parts, this pattern conversion complete is 6000.

I know m any on here may snub my car and conversions, but there are others out there that may want a great conversion at a great price, rather than go Ferrari and be ripped off, Sorry if the info is a little vague, but i do not want to take any shine from what I think is a great thread by 430 Addict.

Well done on your conversion it gave me vital info that helped my conversion in many ways.

Thanks again for the nice comments etc. Paul
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Exactly what I was thinking, why?
Just for info,I have converted many cars in a similar way, its one thing to go and buy a car ( been there done that) but another to transform a car into a quality thing of beauty, quite therapeutic for me. I left the Marines disabled and had no help or future thanks to the Uk governments lack of help in any way. So I used my interests and skills as a panel beater etc to convert these cars, so one day I can start my own company doing, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche , Mercedes conversions.

There was/is no expense spared in any work I do, the F360 you see will soon have the Scuderia rear end on ( identical) then I will look into the Plenum chamber issue to see if it is possible to fit the F430 chambers, If the Plenums can be changed the 360 will then be absolutely identical cosmetically to a Scuderia.

The Engine in my car was also rebuilt by one of the UKs best Ferrari experts, ( Hargreaves Racing). With the F430 challenge Exhaust the car sounds totally amazing, I use this car every day as my run about, I do have other cars but I tend to drive the Ferrari whatever the weather, these cars need to be used and seen I believe.

My other cars include Ml 320 (164) Mercedes CLK DTM replica, Porsche 996- 997 Turbo cabriolet ( converted), Volvo C30 R design, Lotus Elise ( Exige replica). and SL 65 Black series ( converted now sold). I had converted a 2003 Murci into a LP 670 for a chap in the UK, now shipped to Dubai.

All in all a very nice collection, yes some are replica ( converted) but it was a hobby, now I am going to be doing conversions / upgrades for people who want a little more bling without breaking the bank. For you guys that can afford Brewsters on your cars, lucky you ! Some out there would love to buy new but cannot afford, with my help now they may have a chance I hope.

Anyone that needs parts for a similar conversion just need to ask, I can source most parts at great prices, I have as new Scuderia door cards, challenge door cards, in fact a full interior spare/ for sale, Scuderia Full exhausts manifolds to titanium tips, rear carbon grilles all genuine, Scuderia wheels and more.

I hope this helps explain the conversion I have done to the 360, yes it was more expensive than converting a F430, but that would have been a little too easy for me. My 360 had every single outer panel replaced, even roof skin, all glass everything you see. If I have some info regarding meets or shows I will happily bring the car along so anyone can look at the quality fit and finish, to judge for themselves in real life rather than a few un clear images.

Any info regarding changing the 360 plenums for F430 items will be very much appreciated indeed. Paul
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Regardless, I would still just buy a Scuderia. A 360 with a Scuderia body is still just a 360.

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sorry the point was/is to show what quality my conversion is to others that may want to bling up their F430s, just like 430 addict has done, but giving anyone considering the option a chance to save many thousands in the process.

The 360 was a hobby only, I could easily have converted a F430 to Scuderia, or even sold one or two other cars and bought a Scuderia, However my 360 when finished will look exactly 100% Scuderia as the parts used are genuine etc, but for half the price.

This enables me to have very very low insurances (replica policy agreed values etc) and run my Ml 320, my Volvo C30, 06 Lotus Elise, and 997 turbo S cabriolet, My CLK DTM is in a showroom of a friend of mine.

Granted my cars are re bodied etc, but when and if I can fit F430 Plenums? my 360 will in every way look like a Scuderia, in fact as its a Novitec look, then it may well look better than some Scuderias out there, that will be for people to comment on after the up coming meets etc. after making decisions on what they here and see.

I like the look and aesthetics of cars, speed and performance are not a priority at
all. The re bodied 360 is plenty fast enough, and as for sound I have simply never heard anything much better, The Challenge exhaust makes a truly un believable sound.

Any parts needed by anyone for 360s or 430s Scuderia or not I can source at great prices or point you in the right direction , all genuine Ferrari too.

hope this is of some use, and gives you a better idea or what and why etc.. Paul
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Just a few pics of a couple of my other cars and my quad, I have two quads great fun too, as you can see having a few re bodied cars gives a great garage at a great prices, and all my cars have profit in them, so all in all I am quite happy.

The Lamborghini was converted to a LP670 and sold to Dubai, the Stradale Sold to a chap in the Netherlands, the Porsche I still have, plus the DTM and Elise, C30 R design and ML.

To most I imagine not so much a big deal, but I thought it may give some idea of why I do what I do in my spare time.
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The think all the conversions are missing is resale value. By the time you dump all that money into a car, that most likely will not be kept forever, you don't even get 50% of your investment back on the upgrades.

I am certainly impressed with the interior conversions, are you getting the LED steering wheel to work with the 360's?

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Yes everything works fine,

The 360 is basically identical to the 430 there is no rocket science despite the hype that the 430 was some new car, rather than a 360 in a different dress. The differences are very few, 430 engine shared with a Maserati, and an E diff set up, the suspension and settings etc are basically as 360, some people let the new body style lead them to believing the F430 was some radical new car/chassis.The steering wheel does little more than turn functions off and on that are already on a 360 in a slightly different way. If I have missed any major differences I guess someone will point those out.

The re bodied and replica market is very good if the cars are immaculate as mine are, there is money to be made despite your impression, that is why I run a successful company doing so and have done so for many years.

I am currently looking at re boding a F360 into a 458 italia for a friend ( in carbon fiber panels),
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Yes everything works fine,

The 360 is basically identical to the 430 there is no rocket science despite the hype that the 430 was some new car, rather than a 360 in a different dress. The differences are very few, 430 engine shared with a Maserati, and an E diff set up, the suspension and settings etc are basically as 360, some people let the new body style lead them to believing the F430 was some radical new car/chassis.The steering wheel does little more than turn functions off and on that are already on a 360 in a slightly different way. If I have missed any major differences I guess someone will point those out.

The re bodied and replica market is very good if the cars are immaculate as mine are, there is money to be made despite your impression, that is why I run a successful company doing so and have done so for many years.

I am currently looking at re boding a F360 into a 458 italia for a friend ( in carbon fiber panels),
Never said you did not make money, sure you do, it's the sellers that take a bath.

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as for taking a bath, ask 430 addict ? i imagine he may take one if the parts were very expensive, other wise most 430s I will do may actually increase in value using genuine Ferrari parts at the right price.

the Porsche`s make good money for the owners, I do one off conversions and keep them in most cases, that is unless someone desperately wants one, as the LP670 which was identical, I cannot show pictures of the finished car due to a privacy clause with the buyer.

My 360 will not be for sale it is my car, offering Scuderia conversions similar to 430 addicts is the only thing I will be doing ref Ferrari, but without the Megga price tag for customers, Now that really is a customer bargain I am sure, thanks for the detailed interest.

Sorry 430 addict

I seem to have poached your thread very sorry ! if you require any other parts for your ongoing project feel free to message me. love your thread very interesting and helpful Regards Paul
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Amazing!
I knew the 360 and 430 were quite similar but this is just ridiculous .
I understand that many of the members here are in disbelieve and really don't see why you would do such a thing, but what the heck if you can do it, enjoy doing it and the result... why not?

For me it will never work, my 430 needs to have a 4,3l and the sound that goes with that engine.

But still if you use this car to show your clients your craftsmanship I think it will definitely work, good job!!

P.s. if you have some Scuderia side skirts or a front bumper laying around sent me a msg, I just want to try them on to see how it looks so if the price is right .
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Any parts needed by anyone for 360s or 430s Scuderia or not I can source at great prices or point you in the right direction , all genuine Ferrari too.

hope this is of some use, and gives you a better idea or what and why etc.. Paul
You caught my attention with this last bit just like the 4th last pic of your 430 conversion =D

I need the OEM 4-pt racing harness for the Scuderia...any leads?
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as for taking a bath, ask 430 addict ? i imagine he may take one if the parts were very expensive, other wise most 430s I will do may actually increase in value using genuine Ferrari parts at the right price.

the Porsche`s make good money for the owners, I do one off conversions and keep them in most cases, that is unless someone desperately wants one, as the LP670 which was identical, I cannot show pictures of the finished car due to a privacy clause with the buyer.

My 360 will not be for sale it is my car, offering Scuderia conversions similar to 430 addicts is the only thing I will be doing ref Ferrari, but without the Megga price tag for customers, Now that really is a customer bargain I am sure, thanks for the detailed interest.

Sorry 430 addict

I seem to have poached your thread very sorry ! if you require any other parts for your ongoing project feel free to message me. love your thread very interesting and helpful Regards Paul
You show me a pre-owned one you have sold that has increased in value, and I will buy one. I highly doubt it.

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