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Wrinkle Paint?

Hey Guys,

So I've used VHT wrinkle paint on my plug covers. It was OK but I don't love it and the color does not appear factory correct.

So, I've found this stuff:

Wrinkle paint Riloplast 80C

Anyone ever use it? I'm looking into it as it seems like the proper solution and it's also designed for a spray gun.
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The Riloplast looks like a good match. I for one used Harley Davidson Texture Black. It looks good and easy to use.
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Dave i do agree initially but after some time i noticed it seems to look mor like factory. I dont know if its the heat of the engine bay or what but the brightness dulls considerably after say a year and then seems to stay that way.
Right after i did my covers i felt the same as you. If you looked at them now you might think differently.
The only way to know for sure is to maybe compare with a very slighly usd 355 or maybe on a factory tour. I do not have that experience so i can not comment on what they originally looked like.
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Grant,

One issue with VHT is color. The other is the effectiveness and uniformity of the wrinkle. See this image - this is what Ferrari looks like (Riloplast) and it has a really cool pattern to the wrinkle. I've not be able to replicate that wrinkle with VHT. Also, it would seem as Riloplast has properties to not need primer for adhesion.
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Grant,

One issue with VHT is color. The other is the effectiveness and uniformity of the wrinkle. See this image - this is what Ferrari looks like (Riloplast) and it has a really cool pattern to the wrinkle. I've not be able to replicate that wrinkle with VHT. Also, it would seem as Riloplast has properties to not need primer for adhesion.
Hi Dave, I just painted these using VHT and got great results similar to the pic you posted.

The trick is 3 coats, different directions and only air dry on a hot sunny day.
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Hey Elliot,

I had decent results but I'm still not totally pleased. I used my home oven to bake but that was not ideal as I sprayed at my shop then brought them home. I ended up doing another coat and I used a heat gun that worked pretty well.

We are about to buy an industrial oven so the results will be much better.

I'm still waiting for a reply from the company above. I used VHT primer but this company appears to not use primer.

Also, sanding the top is a daunting task so we plan to make fixture plates so we can mill the top and just leave a thin dusting to sand for finish.

If we develop a good process for my own parts we may start offering this as a service along with our other refinishing work.
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Try first tack coat with part cold then heat up and add paint build to the desired wrinkle

Thats how we did all the HD parts or they would not hold up well

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Close up on mine.....I'll be redoing them...
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Looks pretty nice Dave.

What grit did you sand them down with? Also how to best sand out the countersunk holes?
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Looks pretty nice Dave.

What grit did you sand them down with? Also how to best sand out the countersunk holes?
Well, my OCD won't allow me to live with this, Elliot - must be better ;-)

I forget what grit I started with - I think 100. I finished them with 220 IIRC. They are supposed to have a time-saved look (grain marks)

The factory does not remove the paint in the counter sunk holes - I did it because seems kind of dumb to have the screw dig in...

I used a scrapper (a tool we have here for deburring parts). http://www.noga.com/nogaProducts.php?catID=scra
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Close up on mine.....I'll be redoing them...
Yep thats not good.

One thing with wrinkle paint I found over the years is the more uniform the wrinkle the better it holds up to heat and chemicals.
You can bake the alum to get the oil and dirt out of it then alumiprep it, similar to what you do before welding a oil saturated part.

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Well, this company turned out to be a PITA. I completed a request form online then after a week or so with no reply I emailed them again. They sent me another form asking a bunch of info that's not all that relevant and I replied that I provided all info they need to give me pricing. They refused unless I filled out form.

I will be looking for another option as this was more work than its worth.
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Crap - they might have me by the balls as it does not appear any other suppliers are out there - crap, I guess I need to fill out the stupid form
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Wow, this is some expensive stuff

1 KG (which is just over a quart) = 300 Euros ($334)
6 KG (just over 6 quarts) = 1188 Euros ($1322)

I've got to think about this......
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It gets better.......

110 Euros for a wooden crate that they require and 600-700 euros for shipping.

Needless to say, this material is too expensive to use...
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