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To paint or not paint the subframe - opinions?

Hey Guys,

So I have a bit of a dilemma:

Soon I will have the motor and trans out of the sub-frame and I am debating if I should paint it or not.

Needless to say, now is the time if I decide to do this. Overall it's in good shape - some very minor surface rust in a couple places and a few scratches / chips that show red thru (Ferrari must use red primer or paint these after the body is painted)

I'm wondering if it would look out of place if I paint it. Of course I would try to match the flat / semi flat finish but unless I have a 4 year old paint it, it will probably not look factory

And, the frame still in the body won't get painted so I could end up with a miss match.

I suppose another option is to just touch it up.....

Thoughts?
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Paint it, get out of your comfort zone.

The factory does a horrible job of painting it. Modern chemicals are so far advanced from when it was originally done



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I've sent and email of to my powder coat supplier. Waiting to see what he has to say. Looking for a finish that will be tough, heat resistant, flat black with sheen to match as close as possible.
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Soon as any of the flat or matt coatings get dirty its hard to tell the difference, they all tend to fade together so dont freak if its a little off at first

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I like Tim's suggestion. Should look great Dave.

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Paint it, get out of your comfort zone.

The factory does a horrible job of painting it. Modern chemicals are so far advanced from when it was originally done



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Paint or powder coat, it's not a museum piece, but if having the color is slightly different than the other surrounding pieces in black offends you, perhaps it is time to consider just having them all done. Obviously something that is durable would suit you well, lots of good choices.
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Go with a matte black rust-olium or POR-15 option. High temp, matte black sprey paint.

http://www.por15.com/HIGH-TEMP_p_104.html

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Go with a matte black rust-olium or POR-15 option. High temp, matte black sprey paint.

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Thanks for the tip, Joe.

I don't have the facilities to paint a large frame and I don't want to do it in my driveway

I also want it blasted first. I've spoken to a local guy that specializes in this type of stuff and I plan to stop over to his shop in the next few weeks to discuss it more.

I've 99% decided to do it so we shall see.
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Matte is super hard to keep clean though...I think in a engine bay it would be hell. I know you will want to keep the factory look.

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Technically, the color is flat black. So it should be a pretty close match to the factory color and a shop could still paint it for you. They sell it in liquid form too. As far as high temp coatings go, this would be one of your cheaper options to protect the subframe. Powdercoat would not look like factory as far as I can tell. It's also impossible to fix cheaply if you get a scratch in it. Would require a whole new powdercoating process just reapply the coating to a small area and this is a large object that comes out of the car every few years.

As always, there are pros and cons to every choice you have to make. Powdercoat looks nicer. But, unless you are going for a color you want people to notice, I've always asked why powdercoat it? A plain flat black kinda sounds like a waste of money with a powdercoat.

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The funny thing is, Joe, the factory finish is terrible. The paint the car first and then the sub frame so a bunch of red is still seen. They do a horrible job with the sub frame. I told the powder coat supplier to pull some dude off the street that day and have him do it

PS, I had Tim (Silly) take some temp measurements for me and the PC will be fine.

When I put everything back together, I'll use some of this stuff over the frame
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True, grabbing the tape first will help you in the long run. That or plastic, and the funny thing is, this applies to more than just cars.

If you're going to powdercoat some stuff, you should look into giving the valve cover pieces a fresh look. The wrinkle red of today looks a hell of a lot better than the 90's.

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I do plan to repaint the valve covers using VHT wrinkle paint and baking in my kitchen oven. Good thing I don't have a wife
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I would definitely paint it. As someone else stated, use modern techniques and it will last much longer and look much nicer than it did from the factory.
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