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post #741 of 760 Old 02-18-2016, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
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In regard to the prancing horse on the head rests... I've confirmed on all 3 of my 355's, the horse is exactly the same. My colleague Randy is replicating the art work and Johann will have a die made from our replication. Stay tuned
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That die has to be a real exact match.
That is super difficult to do.....will surely take several attempts

Will be interested in how this turns out.

Real old school artisan work....

Any mis-matches or poor workmanship in the die will be very apparent in the leather....= it's gotta be right👍
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Turns out, I'm mistaken. To the naked eye, they all look exact, however after taking a photo of my black interior last night, the black horse is actually a bit more defined and it's not a result of a better press - it's actually slightly different artwork.
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I don't think Coach Trim's embossed cavallino rampante is very accurate or well defined. If you really want accuracy here, I'd re-engineer the die that creates the embossed horse.
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I don't think Coach Trim's embossed cavallino rampante is very accurate or well defined. If you really want accuracy here, I'd re-engineer the die that creates the embossed horse.
See the posts above you, Joe - that's what we are doing
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Can your guy take my 20 year old headrests apart, they're in very good condition, emboss and re-sew them?
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i don't think coach trim's embossed cavallino rampante is very accurate or well defined. If you really want accuracy here, i'd re-engineer the die that creates the embossed horse.

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Can your guy take my 20 year old headrests apart, they're in very good condition, emboss and re-sew them?
Hi Richard,

If you are asking if they can emboss over the original emboss? I doubt it. But certainly Johann can recover your head rests with new leather but depending on your leather color, it might not be a perfect match.
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Can your guy take my 20 year old headrests apart, they're in very good condition, emboss and re-sew them?
Dave how did your airboxes work out?

Also is th carpet guy going to build you carpets? I forget what you were working on with him.
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Dave how did your airboxes work out?

Also is th carpet guy going to build you carpets? I forget what you were working on with him.
Hey Grant,

I've been so stinking busy that I don't know which way is up.....

My biker powder coat dude stripped all but 2 covers for this car and my other 95. He's brought them back to me so we can fine dust them with our glass bead. Hoping to have them done in a couple weeks.

The carpet in this car is really nice so I'm not replacing it. Coach Trim will be making me a set of mats using the rubber inserts from the OEM mats that are toast.
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On the carpet i was thinking more along the lines of floor matts made the same as our originals without the rubber.

I thought if i could get that far i could take rubber from old ones and install on new ones.
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I thought if i could get that far i could take rubber from old ones and install on new ones.
Grant, that is exactly what Coach Trim is doing for me...
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Please keep me posted one way or another thanks.
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Guys, I received a new sample embossed horse from Coach Trim late last week. It's not a match to the original, but it's so darn good that I've given Johann the go a head to proceed with it.
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Johann sent me a picture today of one of the head rests complete - looks great Note, the color gets washed out with iphone photos sometimes...
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Dang that is a pretty looking headrest.

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great thread, thank you.
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awesome!

I spent the last two days reading this thread.

I couldn't stop. I don't have a F355 but love these cars so this information is just the best.

I understood most of it except the timing stuff. Hope to see more of the timing when you start putting it back together?
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restoration concours guide

Has anyone done a guide for restoration for a Ferrari? Jaguar E types have some excellent books on the subject noting original finishes and plating and even down to the bolt markings. I find these books to be very interesting and important for clarification.

Dave, your attention to detail is outstanding. It is important to keep the Ferrari F355 period correct.

"The engineers are our Hellenes, from them we receive our culture" - Adolf Loos (1910)

My favorite book of all time has to be the "Restoration and Preservation of Vintage and Classic Cars" by Jonathan Wood. Chapter 10 at the end of the book discusses "The Aesthetics of Restoration". He talks about hand made cars as being the Workmanship of Risk vs. machine made cars Workmanship of Certainty and the different level of finishes and quality inherent in both. He also mentions the importance of good design but ends the chapter by stating:

When you come to restore your car, aim to reproduce the state in which it left the factory.
Avoid the use of materials that were not current at the time.
Do not plate things that were not plated in the first place, or paint items that were left in their natural state, and visa versa.
By all means clean metal surfaces, but do not polish them unless you use your car on the track.

If you carry out this advise, you may not win every Concours d'Elegance you enter, but you will, at least, be running a car which has retained its historical integrity. By contrast, the polished and plated vehicle will appear as incongruous as a chromium-plated penny in a handful of change.
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Hey Dave, how are things going? Any updates on this F355?

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