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post #1 of 22 Old 01-22-2005, 12:20 PM Thread Starter
 
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Turbocharging a 308 or 328 gts?

Is there a reputable tuner in the US that is turbo charging 308's or 328 GTS? I have been looking around in the search feature and on the internet and do not seem to be able to find any hits. Before people start suggesting newer models, I love the looks of the 308 gts and the 328 gts. The problem is that I am used to driving a 562 HP supercharged Corvette and going to a 240-270 HP car would be a little more performance drop than I want.
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post #2 of 22 Old 01-23-2005, 05:17 PM
 
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I see that Norwood Performance has done both of these cars.
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Thank you for the lead! I had looked several times through all the posts and did several searches with no success. I checked out the site and it looks promising. It sure is harder finding this type of mod for a Ferrari. I am almost affraid to ask how much the kit would be, but hey I spent close to $20,000 upgrading the Vette.
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Suggest yo also see if you can find a Federalized 208 Turbo or a GTS Turbo. The later is based on the 328. These were 2 liter Turbo car produced by Ferrari for the Italian market in the 1980's.
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yes, but they didn't have more power than the 3 litre versions I believe
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yes, but they didn't have more power than the 3 litre versions I believe
True, about the same amount of power, but very different handling and power delivery characteristics.
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more power and torque was the goal so the federalized 208 Turbo wouldn't help. It sounds like 500 Hp @ the crank can be achieved for around $35K at Norwood. So that would put you at around $70-$75K total for aquisition and upgrades.
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So, I have the answer to the first part of the question. Now the second part what do you guys think about adding a turbo done by a reputable shop for resale value. Do Ferrari owners/buyers consider this type of mod ruining the car? Will it create problems selling the car in the long run?
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Personally, I would not touch a modified car and believe many others share this position. So yes it might cause problems selling later.
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It could drop the price by 30-40% and not many people want aftermarket "butchered" cars.

it would be "Unferrari-like"
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. So you guys driving around in 308's and 328's don't mind having Subarus, Celicas, and any remotely newer entry level sports car blowing past you?
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Those are not Ferrari's and 3x8 cars are 25 years old, come on, what do you want? If you only want a fast car, don't buy a Ferrari, if you want a car with class and styl, and the real Italian spirt, buy a Ferrari
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Those are not Ferrari's and 3x8 cars are 25 years old, come on, what do you want? If you only want a fast car, don't buy a Ferrari, if you want a car with class and styl, and the real Italian spirt, buy a Ferrari
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. So you guys driving around in 308's and 328's don't mind having Subarus, Celicas, and any remotely newer entry level sports car blowing past you?
So? I drive a BMW and have those cars blow past me all the time! All i think is "They do not have a BMW".

If you're wanting a mighty fast car, go and spend your money on a R34 GTR Turbo or Something like that.
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There is a guy in the US that has supercharged his 308qv for more or less the same amuont of money you spent on your vette and has got plenty of HPand has done an excellent job out of it(cheers mark) but you will also need to upgrade the brakes(more $)possibly upgrade the suspension(more$).I know here in Australia most insurance companies don't like to insure people who have turboed or blown their engines as they might see it as "why do you want to go faster" and by modifying they might not see the car as safe as original
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. So you guys driving around in 308's and 328's don't mind having Subarus, Celicas, and any remotely newer entry level sports car blowing past you?
Even with a supercharger, those turbo WRX's and other over-powered new cars will still blow your doors off 0-60 or maybe even 0-100. Face it, their weight to hp ratio makes them mini-rockets. And they cost less than you'll pay for that supercharger conversion.

But that's not why you buy a Ferrari. If it is, you picked the wrong car, unless it's an Enzo or 360 Challenge or 430, maybe. Buying an old 308 or 328, you won't be drag racing anyone. But I guarantee you, you'll get a lot more attention in a 308 than you will in any brand new rice burner, and likely enjoy the ride a heck of a lot more. If you want to race, dollar for dollar, buy the new Corvette. If you want to drive in style, buy a nice 308.
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. So you guys driving around in 308's and 328's don't mind having Subarus, Celicas, and any remotely newer entry level sports car blowing past you?
Even with a supercharger, those turbo WRX's and other over-powered new cars will still blow your doors off 0-60 or maybe even 0-100. Face it, their weight to hp ratio makes them mini-rockets. And they cost less than you'll pay for that supercharger conversion.

But that's not why you buy a Ferrari. If it is, you picked the wrong car, unless it's an Enzo or 360 Challenge or 430, maybe. Buying an old 308 or 328, you won't be drag racing anyone. But I guarantee you, you'll get a lot more attention in a 308 than you will in any brand new rice burner, and likely enjoy the ride a heck of a lot more. If you want to race, dollar for dollar, buy the new Corvette. If you want to drive in style, buy a nice 308.
I am starting to understand the mind set now. I think I am going to keep my supercharged Vette and save a little more for a stock 308 GTS or 328GTS.
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. So you guys driving around in 308's and 328's don't mind having Subarus, Celicas, and any remotely newer entry level sports car blowing past you?
Even with a supercharger, those turbo WRX's and other over-powered new cars will still blow your doors off 0-60 or maybe even 0-100. Face it, their weight to hp ratio makes them mini-rockets. And they cost less than you'll pay for that supercharger conversion.

But that's not why you buy a Ferrari. If it is, you picked the wrong car, unless it's an Enzo or 360 Challenge or 430, maybe. Buying an old 308 or 328, you won't be drag racing anyone. But I guarantee you, you'll get a lot more attention in a 308 than you will in any brand new rice burner, and likely enjoy the ride a heck of a lot more. If you want to race, dollar for dollar, buy the new Corvette. If you want to drive in style, buy a nice 308.
I am starting to understand the mind set now. I think I am going to keep my supercharged Vette and save a little more for a stock 308 GTS or 328GTS.
The driving experience with a old Ferrari isn't about "blowing the doors off" of other cars. Well, not any more. It has to do more with the over all experience. The sounds, the smell, the over all driving sensation. When you're driving a car like a 308 it's more about experiencing a part of history. Kind of like climbing into a little time capsule of your own, closing the door and turning the key. It's a car that set a benchmark for what a modern sports car should be. All the others follow in it's foot steps. When you drive a stock one it will be slow by comparison. But, that's not the point. I'll bet it'll put just as large a smile on your face as your vette. I'll also bet you'll get more questions and compiments at the gas station on the "slow" 308 than the Vette.
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senna21, Brilliantly put !
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Ditto, senna21!

A similar comparison is a Harley. Unless tricked-up, most will be easily outrun by a modern Jap rocket bike. It doesn't stop millions of folks from wanting one however - it's a lifestyle thing!
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