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post #1 of 39 Old 01-25-2014, 10:43 AM Thread Starter
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Is it ok to transport F 355 on flatbed while 1st gear is engaged?

My parking brake is INOP. So I plan to put her in 1st gear, accompanied by soft-straps, of course. Will this make for any issues? (gear-grinding etc.) She is going into the shop for a major. Thanks, all.
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Jerking on the drivetrain in gear can affect the valve timing gear.

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Jerking on the drivetrain in gear can affect the valve timing gear.
I wonder if the soft straps can negate that? Or should I chock the wheels? Kind of at a loss on what to do.
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Personally, I would chock the wheels. Every back and forth motion of the F355 in gear will cause the engine to turn forward or backward when in gear. Same reason on a hill you should always set the parking brake before leaving her in gear.

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Personally, I would chock the wheels. Every back and forth motion of the F355 in gear will cause the engine to turn forward or backward when in gear. Same reason on a hill you should always set the parking brake before leaving her in gear.
I read that there can be alignment issues with flatbeds because of the straps pulling. Ever hear of this? The roads are slushy and salty out here and I really don't want to drive 1.5 hours to the dealership.
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Affirmative, there can be alignment issues, but that is more true of cars that use eccentrics for camber alignment. Your F355 uses shims for camber alignment, and those will be much less affected by being strapped down.

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Good way to snap a shift fork.
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Neutral, no brake...strap down front and rear just like every other car. No worries,,,Other than an overzealous tow truck driver who gets carried away with strapping her down too tightly, the greatest risk is getting the car on the truck without scraping the nose. Most tow companies have that figured out as well.

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David- Thanks, that is what I thought, but figured out one of you pros would chime in. No chocks necessary, then?

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Thanks guys...we stacked 2 boards to avoid nose scraping on the flatbed (I had this car delivered to a dealer last week for diagnosis....I am bringing it to a different one because the prices for an engine-out are a lot cheaper) [$5850 VS approx 7000.] I bought the car with little paperwork,though the listing said last engine-out belt service was 2011, August. After many failed attempts to contact the previous owner, I am going to go ahead and get the belt done, and I plan to swap out the manifolds for Fabspeed, while the engine is out. Though a lot of money is required to do this, I am OK doing it given that I paid $45K for it with 14,500 miles.
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A real honest major service on a F355 for $5860? Sorry, that's just not going to happen. Even at $7,000, presuming all else is perfect, has little credibility. I'd be shopping quality workmanship with a solid reputation on a F355 way before price.

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David- Thanks, that is what I thought, but figured out one of you pros would chime in. No chocks necessary, then?
Chocks might be used temporarily to hold the vehicle whilst strapping, but generally once the suspension is compressed, she's not going to move. Even if they put the car in gear, the risk of the engine turning are extremely low, as the mechanical advantage of the diff ratio is working against you...

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The tow straps have been known to scratch up the wheels (assuming they pass the straps through them). So you might want to hit WalMart for some cheapie sacrificial soft towels that the tow straps can bear on.

Be sure to wash/clean your wheels before the tow so you don't have a lot of abrasive road crud getting ground into the paint during the tow by the straps & towels.

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R- You do know the F355 has two cambelts, right? The 348 only had one.

If you do not have it, you can download an F355 workshop manual at ferraridatabase.com.

For $5860, you are probably going to get a lock and swap on the cam belts. What often happens is you get a low bid, and then other things appear which have to be addressed. Or it does not include new cambelt tensioners/pulleys, etc.

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Ferrari of long Island has a "Vintage service program" where prices are lower for a lot of cars to do engine-out services. I will call tomorrow and see what it includes, exactly. I will definitely use some towels on the wheels this time. Thanks for the tip. I estimsted an additional $1000 on top of $5850, assuming the service will cost closer to $7000, actually. (water pump, for example). In any case, I want to be able to drive the car without worrying that my timing belt might jump teeth, or even snap, which is highly improbable, from what I have heard. In any case...here we go!
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FoLI is a reputable shop....However, giving a detailed estimate of what the quote includes versus what the car actually needs are often two entirely different scenarios. Taking into consideration the previously mentioned check engine light/slow down light issues, I'd be budgeting just a bit more.

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Like David said, if that is FoLI, you should be in good shape, and budgeting a bit more is smart. I doubt if many belt changes have been made without finding something else that needed fixing. On mine, it was secondary air pump gaskets, not expected.

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Ok good news for Ferrari owners, they (FOLI) have a vintage service program that makes it more affordable to maintain our cars. They also are doing this at Ferrari of Ft.Lauderdale since the two shops are owned by the same group of people. Full timing belt service: $5850. Here is what Patrick from their service dept. told me:

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HI Brian , It was a pleasure talking to you taday and I hope I was able to answer all your questions . We were discussing the major service for your Ferrari 355. Our special vintage price on that service is 5850.00 plus tax. The service includes a lube oil and filter change , brake fluid flush , replacement of the engine coolant , and transmission gear oil. It also includes the replacemant of the pollin filter ,the timing belts , timing belt tensioners, external belts , spark plugs, valve cover gaskets, front cover and cam seal gaskets. . Of course during this service we will check and advise on the condition of the water pump, hoses, brakes and tires, ect. You also asked about installing a set of exhaust manifolds that you would provide. I spoke to my Ferrari ( super tech ) I was telling you about. he said that would not be a problem. You would be looking at an additional 375.00 to do that. ( approx 3 hours of labor) . I also spoke to my tech Mike. Like I said , he is an old time Ferrari guy and he does these Major services very often. He said the easiest way to make sure that the valve guides are ok is to do a compression test. We could do each cylinder individually to make sure that the compression is within factory specs . If the compression is good then the valve guides are fine. this can be done for about 240.00 plus tax. Again with 15000 miles it might be a little overkill but it also peace of mind To be quite honest with you my tech mike said in all his years doing this he has never seen a Ferrari engine with 15000 miles on it have bad valve guides. The only other way to check the valve guides would be to remove the cylinder heads and valves but that would be very costly and to be quite honest really not necessary. If there is anything else you need please let me know."


Awesome! I feel very good about getting this service done there, and might throw a set of Fabspeed manifolds/ heat shields on while the engine is out. Easier...I will likely flatbed the car there tomorrow. Going to check the weather.
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