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post #1 of 13 Old 05-30-2004, 06:54 AM Thread Starter
 
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Engine cleaning 308 (GT4)

I am currently in the process of cleaning my engine block on my 308GT4, it isn't really dirty but the aluminium is quite tarnished. Anyway, I can get a really good shine by first using 1200 grit wet & dry then going over it with Autosol metal cleaner. (Anyone had any problems doing this?)

I can't really get to all the metal in cylinder 3 position as there is a bracket that attaches the engine to the chasis. Is it OK to remove this (temporarily) so I can clean where the spark plug is for cylinder 3? Is it simply a case of removing the bolts & bracket then putting them all back when finished?

I'll post a picture when I've finished cleaning - anyone got any advice for keeping the shine, as I'm sure it'll tarnish up again pretty soon?
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post #2 of 13 Old 05-30-2004, 02:24 PM
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Hi Andy,
I assume you are talking about the reaction rod. It is OK to temporarily remove this while working on the engine. It is there to control the torque of the engine when you "Get down on it".

For keeping the shine, you might try some clear engine paint.

Looking forward to the pics, I need to do this to my car too.

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That's great, thanks for the info.

I have the GT4 workshop manual and I am struggling to find the torque required when tightening these bolts. I cannot find anything described as a "reaction rod". Don't suppose anyone knows the torque setting?
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Post photos and tell us how it's done. I'm sure most of us will be keen to know.
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I've just done one side. I've got to get in between the lettering, any suggestions? As you can see the 'reaction rod' and bracket still need removing to clean cylinder 3.
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post #6 of 13 Old 06-01-2004, 08:00 PM
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There's a speck of dust you missed Andy, right under the #2 plug lead.

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If you are trying to get between the Ferrari lettering try some Q-tips or cotton balls with some rubbing alcohol. Looks good so far, good job.
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This is how I did mine. Rather labor intensive but the end result is easy to keep clean.

http://www.ferrari-talk.com/discus/m...tml?1073693391

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Wow, that is an amazing looking engine (and everything), makes mine look filthy!!

I will get to work at once - I never thought to detail underneath, but I will now.

I have entered the UK FOC Ferrari concourse on July 4th. 1st time for me, my car is pretty good, but not perfect so I don't expect to win, but it will give me pointers for next year.

Whilst I'm on the subject - the things that let my car down are the exhaust (original, but 15 years old!) and (possibly) the wheels. I have got a set of 16" Compomotive spilt rim alloys - which look really good as they are absolutely immaculate (I'll post a picture tomorrow) - and the original 14" campagnolo wheels which are a bit shabby and need restoring. My question is - is it best to keep the 16" on that look really good, but will loose points as they are not the original wheels, or is it best to put the original ones on that look OK from a distance, but will loose points because they need restoring? Any advice appreciated?

P.S. From reading stuff on the web it seems that you chaps in America have many more products to choose from when it comes to polishing and detailing. Is all this stuff available from your local Motorfactors store or do you have to order it specially. I have just ordered a selection of 'Finish First' products as they seem to come highly recommended. (take a look at http://www.fca-se.org/concours.htm)

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Andy, (and others on this site)
If there is something you want that is only available in the U.S. You can have it shipped to my house and I will forward it to you. Just reimburse me for the postage.

I have been doing this for Dirk for over a year, he collects Ferrari magazines and gets some of them from EBay from people who will only ship to a U.S. address. Every so often I get a message from him to expect a magazine and when I get it I just fill out the customs declaration and forward it to Belgium.

I have no problem sending stuff to the U.K. to help out a fellow FF'er.

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Very nice of you, Pete.
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it seems that you chaps in America have many more products to choose from when it comes to polishing and detailing. Is all this stuff available from your local Motorfactors store or do you have to order it specially
Well my local Motorfactors store is about 1300 miles away (or however far!), however a typical Pep Boys or AutoZone does have a large selection of care products at differing price points, many of which would be pretty good. You can always go nuts and order some even more expensive stuff from specialists, but......
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Many products, like Simple Green can be ordered direct from the manufacturers website. Simple Green happens to be a biodegradeable, non-flammable household cleaner and is found in hardware/home supply stores as well as grocery and auto parts stores. Smells good too!

The aluminum brightner (inexpensive) might be purchased directly from NAPA (National Auto Parts Association) via their website. (I haven't checked yet, sorry).

I am assuming that there would be products in Europe that would contain the same ingredients as many of the products over here. I think it is good of Pete to forward magazines and other items. I will consider doing the same with the exception of flammable or corrosive materials of course.

Many people are surprised that I went to all of the work to detail the underside of the car. When it comes to maintenance and repairs it makes the job much easier and cleaner. Easier to find oil leaks too!

Let me know and I'll see what I can do.

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