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post #1 of 13 Old 08-07-2013, 04:31 PM Thread Starter
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Car Is FINALLY Off The Stands

Car is running.
No leaks.
No beefs.
But, not without issue...

Filled the car with coolant/water.
Followed Birdman's bleeding tutorial.
When it came time to bring the car to temp, the temp rose, fans never kicked on.
Temp went well above 195, so there is no reason for the fans not to kick on since I have a 185 degree switch.

I have not checked to see if the fans work because of the following:
- Both coolant pipes, in the engine bay, became hot: REAL HOT.
- Neither pipes at the front rose in temperature at all.
- Hoses never got hot.
- Tanks on the radiator never got hot.

Couple things to note:
- I refilled with almost 6 gallons of coolant/water: close to full capacity
- I had minor leaks at some of the coolant hoses: front, rear, and at the petcocks I installed on the tubes, below the radiator.
- I know coolant can reach the front of the car, so I can rule out something blocking the coolant from getting to the front.

Questions:
- We can rule out 'blockage' cause of the last/above line, correct?
- Both coolant pipes, on each side of the engine, were hot so the thermostat is opening, correct?
- What else could it be?

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- Both coolant pipes, on each side of the engine, were hot so the thermostat is opening, correct?
- What else could it be?

Thanks dudes!!


No. If the pipes at the radiator are not hot there is no circulation. If there is no circulation either the thermostat or the pump is air locked. If the thermostat is air locked it will not open.


Bleeding the system is extraordinarily easy. Trust me, the guys on the line do it in about 30 seconds.

What is Birdmans method?
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No. If the pipes at the radiator are not hot there is no circulation. If there is no circulation either the thermostat or the pump is air locked. If the thermostat is air locked it will not open.


Bleeding the system is extraordinarily easy. Trust me, the guys on the line do it in about 30 seconds.

What is Birdmans method?
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Grats on getting it a step closer!

Just as a question - are you sure the fan switch is good? Do you have an infrared temp sensor you can check the drop in temps across the radiator?
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Grats on getting it a step closer!

Just as a question - are you sure the fan switch is good? Do you have an infrared temp sensor you can check the drop in temps across the radiator?


Not the problem.
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Typically stupid overly complex method for dealing with something that even an assembly line worker can do a hundred times a day.




1.Open both bleeders and turn the heater temp control to warm.
2. Pour in coolant mix until it spills out both bleeders.
3. Close bleeders and top off tank.
4. Cap off system and drive until next year when you need to change coolant.


That's the way Ferrari did it in Maranello. That's the way Ferrari mechanics did it world wide.

It ain't rocket science.
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Not the problem.
Just trying to help... bleeding is fairly simple... listen to the experts!
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1.Open both bleeders and turn the heater temp control to warm.
2. Pour in coolant mix until it spills out both bleeders.
3. Close bleeders and top off tank.
4. Cap off system and drive until next year when you need to change coolant.


That's the way Ferrari did it in Maranello. That's the way Ferrari mechanics did it world wide.

It ain't rocket science.

Finally a easier way to do this.

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Typically stupid overly complex method for dealing with something that even an assembly line worker can do a hundred times a day.




1.Open both bleeders and turn the heater temp control to warm.
2. Pour in coolant mix until it spills out both bleeders.
3. Close bleeders and top off tank.
4. Cap off system and drive until next year when you need to change coolant.


That's the way Ferrari did it in Maranello. That's the way Ferrari mechanics did it world wide.

It ain't rocket science.
This happens while the car is running?
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4. Cap off system and drive until next year when you need to change coolant.
Do most of you change your coolant yearly? I usually go a couple of years in the Ferrari (and closer to 5 years in my modern vehicles)...
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This happens while the car is running?


Why would you?
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Do most of you change your coolant yearly? I usually go a couple of years in the Ferrari (and closer to 5 years in my modern vehicles)...


In the Ferrari's it is the only way we have been able to keep the radiators alive.
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Gotcha! Thanks, Brian!
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