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Brett's 308/ Forza

So heading out to SFO and notice the new Forza in the foyer. I grab it and what an issue. Devoured the 550 buyers guide and came across the "Big Buck 308" piece.

Well it's a great read about Brett Gagnon's incredible restoration saga and the result. I am in awe of your commitment and result. All of your choices were superb.

I doubt there have been such a nearly new 308 since the 80s.

All told how long did it take? And were those figure in usd or cdn?

I've never wanted a 308 as much.

More to follow but all should read.

Well done Brett. I hope you keep it forever.


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thank you

took just less than 10 months, the figures are CDN, but with current exchange rate (then and now) it is the same 1CDN=1US for all intents and purposes.

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took just less than 10 months, the figures are CDN, but with current exchange rate (then and now) it is the same 1CDN=1US for all intents and purposes.

Well your article made me want to restore-something. Iam glad it was a happy ending. It made for great reading.

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Well your article made me want to restore-something. Iam glad it was a happy ending. It made for great reading.

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Made me want to do it again, not sure what is next though.

I am on the fence about the GT4, 365 2+2 might be it

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I haven't subscribed to Forza in years, but I think I'm going to have to take a ride over to Barnes and Noble. It's so cool to see this sort of work being done... it's really opened up the potential for us 308 owners.
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Very cool article!

Went out today and -- because of the article -- bought my first ever copy of Forza (never heard of it before, quite frankly).

GREAT ARTICLE of an awesome car.

I really appreciated the detailed breakdowns and the lack of candy coating regarding how much had to be spent to get the car into top shape. Yeah, I had already read the Ferrari Life thread, but the details and organization of the magazine article was a good summary of what you did.

I've got an article on one of my BMWs (Roundel Magazine Nov 2008 "Overlooked Nobility") and can say that having a car in a magazine really does make it feel special (so, how many copies of Feb Forza did you buy for your mother??!!??).

The article too is driving me around the bend about not owning a Ferrari. I've been helping a friend of a friend figure out what to do with his 1980 308i with some major engine issues and he might offer it to me, but, well, we all know about the faults of the 308i. I am starting to dream about 328s. hummm... dreams. It sounds like you have fulfilled one of yours. It is so totally cool so see something come out as nicely as your GTB has. The joy is contagious.

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took just less than 10 months, the figures are CDN, but with current exchange rate (then and now) it is the same 1CDN=1US for all intents and purposes.
Read the article on the plane yesterday. Huge undertaking.but sounds like it all worked out brilliantly. Mods made to the engine are very interesting. How does the extra bhp impact the way you drive the 308?
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Read the article on the plane yesterday. Huge undertaking.but sounds like it all worked out brilliantly. Mods made to the engine are very interesting. How does the extra bhp impact the way you drive the 308?
A few things on the extra bhp with the reduced weight:

- my Gertrude needs new shoes, i have had a few occasions of grip loss on pedal application
- if i need to get to a spot on the road I am there instantly, even with carbs, while not 458 performance, the lightweight and increased HP puts her where she needs to be quickly
- the carbs are the limiting factor to her performance, but as it is a 35 year old car, I am willing to lose some for the melodic sound that are Webers doing their jobs
- the restored suspension is firm and responsive, making the overall ride more tactile and involved

Overall it is a joy to drive

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I'm still digesting. On my second read. That's what I like about Forza. I also keep the Shop Talk readings handy (Brian Crall aka BRIAN here), as I need to reference from time to time.

Your project Brett does make it seem a great experience and viable. Who knows....hmmm.

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A few things on the extra bhp with the reduced weight:

- my Gertrude needs new shoes, i have had a few occasions of grip loss on pedal application
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Will you keep the stock wheels/tires or go for a stickier low profile option?
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Can the article be read/purchased online? Don't seem to be able to get the magazine in my part of the world.

Congrats on being published by the way Brett

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Will you keep the stock wheels/tires or go for a stickier low profile option?
I just hit TireRack.com to see your stock size options. Wow: nada. What is the prefered 308 tire profile? What are the maximum widths that fit in the wheel wells?

... The good news is that modern street compounds are grippier than yesteryear's R-comps.
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Can the article be read/purchased online? Don't seem to be able to get the magazine in my part of the world.

Congrats on being published by the way Brett
Thank you Barry, I am having a hard time finding one in downtown Toronto, outside of the big retailers, if I find another copy I can buy one for you and send, but it may be better to ask someone in the UK as it may take 10 months with Canada Post at the helm...

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Will you keep the stock wheels/tires or go for a stickier low profile option?
I am currently running Yokohama Avid V4S P225/60R16 & P245/50R16

and I am planning on going to Bridgestone Ptenza RE-11ís in 225/50R16 & 245/45R16

so stickier for sure, a huge upgrade I am imagining

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Thank you Barry, I am having a hard time finding one in downtown Toronto, outside of the big retailers, if I find another copy I can buy one for you and send, but it may be better to ask someone in the UK as it may take 10 months with Canada Post at the helm...
Thanks Brett. Will be in Dublin city later in the week. Will check the shops there.

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I just hit TireRack.com to see your stock size options. Wow: nada. What is the prefered 308 tire profile? What are the maximum widths that fit in the wheel wells?

... The good news is that modern street compounds are grippier than yesteryear's R-comps.
the Potenza's will fit nicely and I found them on tirerack, I just ignore the model and go straight for the rough tires I wanted until i found what I could live with

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the Potenza's will fit nicely ... i found what I could live with
Personally, I think the RE-11s are fabulous tires. I currently have a set on my autocross wheels. At the limit they really communucate their pain and break loose predictably.

I previously had a set of Kumho XSes which were the other extreme: great grip, but broke loose abruptly and just slid silently; couldn't tell what they were doing. Then again, I'm no Schumacher.

Glad to hear ther are options. Do you have to stick with the stock 205 tread width, or can you go wider?
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Can the article be read/purchased online? Don't seem to be able to get the magazine in my part of the world.

Congrats on being published by the way Brett
I should be able to pick up an extra copy in London on Friday if you cant find it in Dublin. let me know.
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I should be able to pick up an extra copy in London on Friday if you cant find it in Dublin. let me know.
Will do. Thanks.

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Bret, the article mentions that an upgraded steering rack would be a nice upgrade. Can you tell me what item the mfgr is and a ballpark part price.

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