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post #1 of 17 Old 03-24-2004, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
 
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308 steering rack

I have an 308 GTS from 1982 and the steering rack is worn out on the right wheel side.
Does anyone seen this before and is there any solution?
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post #2 of 17 Old 03-24-2004, 10:01 PM
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Worn-out in what way? Tie-rods, or the bushings in the rack itself? If its a tie-rod, its an easy repair, but if its a bushing in the rack, its a bigger job. Not sure if one could get bushings off the shelf from Ferrari (usually shops just replace the entire thing).
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post #3 of 17 Old 03-24-2004, 10:33 PM Thread Starter
 
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Its the bushing on the right side. If you take away the rubber hose you see the bushing is worn out for at least 2 mm.
Is this an steering rack from Ferrari or can it be replace by some other brand?
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post #4 of 17 Old 03-25-2004, 09:44 AM
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The bushings can be changed and there are upgrades available. I thought TRutlands had a kit for rebuilding these racks.
Jeff or Mark at FerrariUK may be able to offer a bushing kit also.

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post #5 of 17 Old 03-27-2004, 11:11 PM
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...Is this an steering rack from Ferrari or can it be replace by some other brand?
As far as I know, it's a specific Ferrari part (not made by them, but is unique to them).

I'm looking through my GT4 parts catalogue and unfortunately, they don't list internal parts available for the rack. The rack is listed as one part number (GT4 = 104498). It shouldn't stop you though from inquiring about the bushings with either T.Rutlands, or Ferrari of UK...
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post #6 of 17 Old 03-28-2004, 03:35 AM Thread Starter
 
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At T.Rutlands they just boffer an recondition rack and no spare parts.
I just have to look elswere i gues.

Does anyone have the website from
Ferrari of UK...

thanks in advance
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post #7 of 17 Old 03-28-2004, 03:31 PM
 
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I believe that Norwood's in Dallas sells upgraded/uprated steering rack bushing. James has always been very helpful.
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post #8 of 17 Old 03-29-2004, 11:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hello everybody,

Big surprise; i found out that the steering rack is the same as in................a mini cooper !!!!!!
They even suplly service kits to recondition it.

So for all 308-328 owners, write it in your memory.

I let you know how it works out to rebuild the rack.
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Hello everybody,

Big surprise; i found out that the steering rack is the same as in................a mini cooper !!!!!!
They even suplly service kits to recondition it.

So for all 308-328 owners, write it in your memory.

I let you know how it works out to rebuild the rack.
Wow!! Is that awesome info to have! Thanks! Can't wait to hear how you make out.

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post #10 of 17 Old 03-29-2004, 02:46 PM
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I assume that is the current Mini, not a Morris/Leyland one! And how come a current vehicle uses a rack that was designed for a 70's car (308) ?? If I had a Mini I'd feel ripped-off :nuts:
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post #11 of 17 Old 03-29-2004, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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The steering rack from the mini is from the model 1956 untill 1990.
So the rack is from a 1956 car.
Thats maybe the reason its wy its worn out :lol:
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I found out from another source that the rack DESIGN and FABRICATOR is by the same source but the RATIO is different. To my knowledge the ratio is quicker in the mini rack. Installing one in a 308 would raise the low speed steering effort even higher than it is now!

Ferrari didn't actually buy up a bunch of old mini racks to use on the 308 but found the design was adequate for the 308 and contracted to have them built in the '70's with Ferrari specified ratios.

Sorry for the bad news. I was ready to buy one myself.
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post #13 of 17 Old 04-05-2004, 11:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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You are right about the ratio, you can not mount a rack from the mini because of different ratio but the good news is that you can get an revision set from the rack from the mini cooper and with this set you can repair the rack from a 308..

I keep you informed abaut the result and will make some photo's

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Isn't it amazing that a component built for a cheap 50HP 700 kg car with little 10" x 3.5" wheels (early Minis) could also handle the cornering stresses of a big 250HP Ferrari with fat sticky tyres. :nuts:

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Hi Eddy,
Any luck on your steering rack repair?

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post #16 of 17 Old 04-19-2004, 08:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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Didn't had the time to get the parts, will try to order tommorrow.

Keep you informed when we get it , will make pictures( everybody seems to love it) and let you know how it works out.

Eddy
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post #17 of 17 Old 05-20-2004, 01:59 PM
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Have exactly the same issue. Worn out on the right side. Could anyone provide me with a source for the revision set from the mini cooper rack ?
Thanks.
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