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308 Club Racer on eBay

Heads up for all the V8 fans. A Jim Carpenter prepared full on 308 racecar, semi-converted for club racing, and semi-legal street driving:

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High mileage, low compression, and missing on a few cylinders.....just like my cars.

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post #2 of 21 Old 01-02-2012, 05:56 AM
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Heads up for all the V8 fans. A Jim Carpenter prepared full on 308 racecar, semi-converted for club racing, and semi-legal street driving:

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Thanks for sharing ... surprised it's not gone.
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Thanks for sharing ... surprised it's not gone.
it WOULD be gone, if I thought my marriage would survive me getting into racing again....
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it WOULD be gone, if I thought my marriage would survive me getting into racing again....
You think it's that good of a deal?

I know very little about building a proper track car - but this one appears well built and to have never incurred a accident speaks volumes about the car.
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The problem with a car like this is the carbureted 2valve engine. The chassis is setup fairly well, but the car is terribly under-powered to be competitive in most classes it qualifies for. I mean, most Jap cars that guys take tot he track these days could walk circles around that...let alone all of the Porsches & 'Vettes that it would most likely compete against. It would be difficult to really feel like you're having fun in a car with the presence of a Ferrari that won't turn solid lap times.


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The problem with a car like this is the carbureted 2valve engine. The chassis is setup fairly well, but the car is terribly under-powered to be competitive in most classes it qualifies for. I mean, most Jap cars that guys take tot he track these days could walk circles around that...let alone all of the Porsches & 'Vettes that it would most likely compete against. It would be difficult to really feel like you're having fun in a car with the presence of a Ferrari that won't turn solid lap times.
Surely there must be classes where it is not underpowered? It wasn't underpowered in its day. OTOH you can modify it. My specialist had a 308 he raced - he could trouble F40's with it even on accelleration, but certainly on lap times. The engine was modified internally and revved to 10k. But still, it was a 308 engine. Naturally, the car was very much stripped.


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1900lbs and 300hp should make it quite fast. There are plenty of weight/hp classes out there, if the car is well sorted it should compete pretty well there.
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Looks like a fun toy and relatively easy to maintain. Where else can you get a Ferrari race car for $40K? Not that I have $40K or a place to put it. How many of us can say we have a Ferrari race car? Not 1/32 scale, either.

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Little history

I spoke with the owner - it needs about 10k to be put back together which equates to 20 - 30k.

I then spoke with the shop who last had it and it came from Sheehan prior to that who supposedly bought it for his daughter to race.

Anyway the current owner wanted to make it a street car / track car.

Adding doors lights seats and other misc. items.

It has been sitting for a year - needs some electrical wiring and a paint job.

I think the car is plenty fast and has a total of 160k dumped into it.

IMO it's a great deal - just not sure if I can stomach putting a car together that will not have any creature comforts living in St Louis.

Fipside even if I spent 50 it's a 10 on the "cool" factor - especially all in for under 100.

For California or other nice weather states it's the perfect track car for a guy that wants to have something special and if one desires the street version conversion it's certainly doable.
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you should be able to pick it up for much less.....

i briefly hunted for a race/track car before i had kids and hence the time.... they are usually valued by previously owner/race history...

this looks 1) it was never a front running car 2) it is not competitive in any current classes 3) it is expensive to maintain

bid low and often...
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needs pics

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I am currently the high bidder

Bought a few things off e-bay ... sometimes they come out better than expected and sometimes they don't.

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Looks like a solid build.
I reckon it is cool and for the money worth it.
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I am currently the high bidder

Bought a few things off e-bay ... sometimes they come out better than expected and sometimes they don't.


well, if you win be sure to post the pics otherwise after that ebay listing expires...no more.

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the way I see it, if you are getting into racing to be competitive, you better plan on spending a LOT of money. When I was teaching motorcycle track schools, I would always tell the new "I wanna go racing" guys that the best way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a big one.

In racing, money without talent is a dead-end, but so is talent without money.

So most of us get into it with something uncompetitive, and we just have fun. Many of us find local club-racing where class-structures are created around the cars that show-up. they'll put you into a class where your car should be competitive, and then when you start kickin' everyone's a** every weekend, they move you into a different class. It's a low-stress, low-budget way to go racing.

So at that point, for me, it's all about how much fun am I having? And that has everything to do with what I'm driving / riding. My bike or car may not be the fastest on the track.... but my pits are the ones that EVERY spectator has to stop and gawk at, and ask questions, and get hooked the same way I am.

I remember one year I went racing with a brand-new Honda CBR600RR, a fully-built 1974 Yamah RD400 and a 1998 Ducati M900 that was SERIOUSLY customized. The Honda was fast enough to win races, but nobody wanted to see it, and I didn't particularly love riding it. The other two bikes, on the other hand, were constantly scrutinized, with people asking questions and wanting to know more. And you could see the fire light-up in the face as they imagined "one day that could be me...".

That's what this Ferrari race car would be about at my house. And it'd have to be damn good at it,..... since I'd be living alone if I bought it.
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He tossed in some reading material - maybe your wife would be more understanding

It sold for full boat - my wife gave me the green light ... sh*T

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So you bought it?
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So you bought it?
I should have
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I should have
Bummer.

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Bummer.
I like projects that were vacated - oh well
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