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racecomp 08-20-2014 05:19 PM

Auto Enginuity diagnostics tool for Ferrari
 
I have been talking to Bill & Jay at AE and they have offered me an option for diagnostics link is below.
Anybody have this already? If so can I have some feedback on how user friendly it is and after sales support from AE, I’m only looking for 360 and 458 for self-use.

Ferrari and Maserati (EI18)


I would like a bit more info on this comment at the bottom of the link ?


*Does not support service Resets with this software release. Known issue retrieving trouble codes from TCM on 360.

tazandjan 08-20-2014 07:48 PM

I was quoted $3800 for the complete package of Ferrari diagnostics and updates. I think what they mean is the system does not support reflashes of ECUs. They currently actually have better diagnostics for the later Ferraris than the earlier ones.

racecomp 08-20-2014 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazandjan (Post 464049)
I was quoted $3800 for the complete package of Ferrari diagnostics and updates. I think what they mean is the system does not support reflashes of ECUs. They currently actually have better diagnostics for the later Ferraris than the earlier ones.

Taz are you buying one?

tazandjan 08-20-2014 09:35 PM

I am seriously considering that or Texa. Have made offers to AE that did not interest them (money down and pay over a year). Broke retiree.

racecomp 08-21-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazandjan (Post 464113)
I am seriously considering that or Texa. Have made offers to AE that did not interest them (money down and pay over a year). Broke retiree.

Sell the car to buy the kit? How much is the Texa?

tazandjan 08-21-2014 03:31 PM

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$5800 in US. Less in the UK.

racecomp 08-21-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tazandjan (Post 464297)
$5800 in US. Less in the UK.


US$3800 is better if it works, Is Texa limited use on 458 stuff?

netman 08-21-2014 08:13 PM

How about a timeshare ownership? I'd be willing to kick in.

StefVan 08-22-2014 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racecomp (Post 464305)
US$3800 is better if it works, Is Texa limited use on 458 stuff?

No, its not limited to the 458 but covers quite many models including the 430 and 360

racecomp 08-22-2014 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StefVan (Post 464489)
No, its not limited to the 458 but covers quite many models including the 430 and 360



What I was trying to say is are you limited to what you can do on a 458 with the Texa? I know it can be used on many other models Stef :-)

voicey 08-22-2014 05:47 AM

My version covers the 458, although I am yet to try it out on one.

StefVan 08-22-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by racecomp (Post 464537)
What I was trying to say is are you limited to what you can do on a 458 with the Texa? I know it can be used on many other models Stef :-)



Sorry, misunderstood your question :) I haven't tested it yet on a 458 but the coverage seem to be good.

ECSofVirginia 08-22-2014 10:18 AM

Looks to me like the Texa and AE systems are the same software, tweaked slightly to seem different?

voicey 08-22-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ECSofVirginia (Post 464689)
Looks to me like the Texa and AE systems are the same software, tweaked slightly to seem different?

No, they are slightly different. For example, the AE tool will activate the valves in the inlet manifold of a 360 whereas the Texa does not.

AE is USA only isn't it? (I've not seen it offered for sale in the UK). Texa is an Italian company.

racecomp 08-22-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by voicey (Post 464769)
No, they are slightly different. For example, the AE tool will activate the valves in the inlet manifold of a 360 whereas the Texa does not.

AE is USA only isn't it? (I've not seen it offered for sale in the UK). Texa is an Italian company.




So you're happy with the product then, Is it user friendly? I'm a user of a few diagnostic and mapping programs that I use for my bike turbo kits. I'm not novice by a long shot.


Learning the tricks of a program can take time, some programs are easy some are hard to pick up.


The main thing for me is that it works and at US$3800 if it works on my 360 and 458 Iím happy with that. I hate not having control of the ECUís diagnostics and reset capability itís a must have in my world.
ECU mapping will happen later for sure.

duckman_bw 08-24-2014 11:54 PM

Does it have the same functionality as SD3 while 3800 usd seems
like a good price.
Can it read the remaining clutch life on a F430 ?

racecomp 08-27-2014 04:21 PM

I asked a few questions relating to 360 and 458, the reply I got was a bit odd with service advice? Basically saying if you are not Ferrari trained donít touch it!

There is no clutch settings required on the 458. There are three F1 gearboxes for the 360 / 430, do have clutch related setting. The first generation F1 does NOT require a scan tool to do although a tool can be used.

The specific coverage matrix is listed here: Ferrari and Maserati (EI18)

If you have not performed these functions prior (CIS and PIS)Ödo NOT do them. Just like the service resets on the new cars require specific Ferrari training or knowledge to prevent error.

KKRace 08-27-2014 08:34 PM

My understanding is there is a for profit clearing house that all the manufacturers use to sell the PID access to the tool companies. Not much difference in most of the ODBII devices on a physical basis but the high cost is paying the royalties to the manufacturers for each set of PID's the scanner manufacturer wants to include.

racecomp 08-27-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KKRace (Post 467241)
My understanding is there is a for profit clearing house that all the manufacturers use to sell the PID access to the tool companies. Not much difference in most of the ODBII devices on a physical basis but the high cost is paying the royalties to the manufacturers for each set of PID's the scanner manufacturer wants to include.

I don't think there's any royalties with this system.

StefVan 08-27-2014 11:21 PM

I approve the advice you got which applies to any advanced diagnostic tool. If you don't know the exact impact of a software action or setting change you can take with an easy click on a button , you can seriously damage your car. Which such tools, there's no room for trials as it has a direct impact on the engine or F1 system.

The 458 Gertag gearbox integrates the double clutch system which is totally different to the F1 robotized manual gearbox. No PIS settings indeed for the 458.


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