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post #1 of 17 Old 04-13-2014, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
 
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F1 comes crazy,can u help me ?

Hi dears,
I have my F430 spider,car runs good as i start it after 5 10 minutes on the road it going to neutral,
but first problem is when u push it up 1,2,3 after it goes to 5 and after if u want to change transmission up or down it doesnt matter it goes again to neutral,and on dashboar it shows me SLOW DOWN and the ligth that in attachment,please see.
I just change the clutch also pump.
Now the guys from garage tellin me that is the actuator,
how do u thing is it ? And have somebody problem before ?
HELP ME PLEASE !
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post #2 of 17 Old 04-13-2014, 09:42 PM
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how many miles, going to neutral is a symptom of a worn clutch.
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Hi Mone, welcome to FerrariLife .

We need to know the error codes stored in your TCU (F1 ECU). It's the on,y way to start a first diagnosis
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That's the engine cover or boot undone sensor
My 360 won't go in gear just goes to neutral, if they are not shut ?
Worth a look.
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Sorry Mark, this light is a generic F1 failure light Many F1 transmission causes possible including indeed also engine cover not closed or brake switch issues.
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Mone- If the F1 system was not bled properly when the clutch and pump were changed, that could cause the symptoms you are seeing. First thing to do, though, is what Steph suggested, have your tech do an SD3 based analysis of the problem. Internet will not solve that kind of problem.

One last thought. Did you change the throw-out/thrust bearing and clutch position sensor when you changed the clutch? Either of those could be a problem, too, if not changed. I would never change an F1 clutch without changing both of those. Get thee to an SD3 equipped technician.

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how many miles, going to neutral is a symptom of a worn clutch.
its 41.000km already,the photo is not for me but the same light is warnings me. No the clutch is new and it works very strong.
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Hi Mone, welcome to FerrariLife .

We need to know the error codes stored in your TCU (F1 ECU). It's the on,y way to start a first diagnosis
Yes i got it,thanks i will let u know as once i will know.
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That's the engine cover or boot undone sensor
My 360 won't go in gear just goes to neutral, if they are not shut ?
Worth a look.
I also think about it may be some cover o sensor not conected or not clothed,any way i dont got it where i need to check.
The car is 5 month with me before i drive R8 i know everything for this car better than the dealer,but now F430 i dont now nothing.
Please help me serious.
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Mone- If the F1 system was not bled properly when the clutch and pump were changed, that could cause the symptoms you are seeing. First thing to do, though, is what Steph suggested, have your tech do an SD3 based analysis of the problem. Internet will not solve that kind of problem.

One last thought. Did you change the throw-out/thrust bearing and clutch position sensor when you changed the clutch? Either of those could be a problem, too, if not changed. I would never change an F1 clutch without changing both of those. Get thee to an SD3 equipped technician.
YES i change 3 part in the clutch ! And i Think the guys who did it they make it properly cauz they make it alot never been heard bad work.
And now they are tell me 100% its Actuator,what do u think about it ?
They tell as i change it it will be done
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That will be very expensive. Do not know what to tell you. A company in Turkey rebuilds the actuators, but most Ferrari shops will not do that.

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Mone, your actuator can not just "break" like this. The actuator itself is very solid. As you just changed your clutch, I really looks like your workshop missed something or did not connect correctly something. The only way to help you further is to know what error codes the F1 TCU is telling.
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Mone, your actuator can not just "break" like this. The actuator itself is very solid. As you just changed your clutch, I really looks like your workshop missed something or did not connect correctly something. The only way to help you further is to know what error codes the F1 TCU is telling.
I also think the same thing,any way i dont know nothing...it makes me crazy very hard what is that exactly,tomorrow must be checked by SD3 and we will se what the problem is going on,but if it will not show it what i need to do i dont know..((
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Mone- Good luck. Always hard to get in between you and your technicians, but, like Stef said, not a common problem on a low mileage F430.

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post #15 of 17 Old 05-09-2014, 11:19 AM Thread Starter
 
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I fix the problem

As i fix this problem i want to tell all of you best regards trying to help me,and let u know this guy change the Actuator and it was done !
Car works WELL !!!
I am very happy !
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Good news So you had to change the entire actuator? Do you know what exactly the problem was with your actuator?

Enjoy
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actuator problem

Hello all:

I posted in the main forum as I am new, however, I have a similar problem with my F430 with 6200 miles. It started about 300 miles ago. I am pursuing the same advice indicated in this thread, and my car will be trucked to the dealer next weekend. I would like to hear more about why this part failed since it was not a matter of bleeding the fluids and actuator and recalibrating. ( I hope I said that correctly). Additionally, if it is not too personal, was the work done at a dealer or aftermarket shop. I would also be interested in the price.

The earliest I will know anything on mine is around the 9th-10th.

thanks in advance,
Phil

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