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Those of you still considering a CS, watch

Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (straight pipe) vs Ferrari 430 Scuderia - YouTube

With the prices so close, it is a no brainer!

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I have a feeling that he was directing that towards me. LOL!
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I have a feeling that he was directing that towards me. LOL!
Nope towards Andrew / Stockpro.

To me, the CS is just a Scud wanna be.

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Mark- The Scud is a CS copy on the F430 platform. Same goals and engineering tricks, but later and more powerful.

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Stokpro....is he here?
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Speed is fleeting, something else will always be faster. Most important thing is how the cars make the driver feel and in this respect both CS and Scud are simply unbeatable - thumbs up to both!

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Actually I think the CS is more visceral in involving the driver with the road ahead. I didn't as much of that feeling with the Scuderia.
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Speed is fleeting, something else will always be faster. Most important thing is how the cars make the driver feel and in this respect both CS and Scud are simply unbeatable - thumbs up to both!
+1, well said Russell

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Speed is fleeting, something else will always be faster. Most important thing is how the cars make the driver feel and in this respect both CS and Scud are simply unbeatable - thumbs up to both!

The Scud is IMO at the top of the Ferrari food chain even though it's 5 years old for track or spirited driving - shift lights and hammer shifts by the F1 transmission titanium on and on

Completely understand that people love the Stradale and rightfully so - which means they also love the Scuds rear even more as that's what they will be seeing
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Stokpro....is he here?
My guess is a chunk of the active members over there are here also.

It would be ridiculous to stay on one forum and not enjoy both unless you were banned permanently

If Stock Pro is here it would be a nice addition - perhaps he is worried that there are no moderators to save him from the dark side here on Ferrari Life
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Nope towards Andrew / Stockpro.

To me, the CS is just a Scud wanna be.
I would not go thaaaat far hehe. Coming from a CS to a Scuderia, I can tell you that the CS felt very sluggish on the straights and out of corners in comparison to the Scuderia, and that's my personal opinion. The steering though felt much more brisk and light in the CS than it does in the Scuderia, which I liked esp. on the track.

My ex-CS was a screamer too, until my ScudXX X-pipe there was just no match to its tubi sound. I had headers, pipes and exhaust and my it was a fire-spitting beast!

Now with the X-pipe in the Scuderia I have achieved perfection

CS who? hehe jk jk, the cult following for a CS though is undeniable and has already made the CS a classic. And most will argue that the Scuderia will never reach that status hence the current market's pricing of the two.

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Its quite surprising what a chunk of weight loss and tuning can do to things.

Despite the power deficiency a really extremely stripped modified 360 or CS can get very close to a Scuderia on bhp per tonne but do the same exercise on a Scuderia and the results are pretty close to Enzo and F12 performance territory, i.e. stupidly quick... !

Not exact science (power and weights vary on options and mileage) but here goes...

Model:.............................. BHP Kerb bhp per tonne
348................................. 291 1468 198.2
328................................. 270 1273 212.1
F355................................ 340 1429 237.9
360 Spider.......................... 360 1450 248.3
360 Modena.......................... 360 1400 257.1
Testarossa.......................... 390 1506 259.0
550 Maranello....................... 485 1690 287.0
575M Maranello...................... 508 1730 293.6
Challenge Stradale (Glass, Stereo).. 418 1320 316.7
F430 Coupe.......................... 460 1450 317.2
Challenge Stradale (Lexan, No Stereo) 420 1290 325.6
360 Modena Challenge................. 425 1249 340.3
599 GTB.............................. 612 1688 362.6
360 Modena (Tuned, Stripped)........ 427 1175 363.4
360 Modena Twin Turbo................ 550 1490 369.1
430 Scuderia........................ 505 1350 374.1
458 Italia........................... 560 1485 377.1
F40.................................. 478 1270 376.4

360 GT-C............................. 445 1100 404.5
F430 Challenge....................... 530 1225 432.7
288 GTO.............................. 400 900 444.4
599 GTO.............................. 670 1495 448.2

430 Scuderia (Tuned, Stripped)...... 558 1200 465.0
458 Challenge........................ 570 1225 465.3
Enzo................................. 651 1365 476.9
F12.................................. 730 1525 478.7
La Ferrari........................... 759 1255 604.8
F40 LM............................... 760 1100 690.9
288 GTO Evoluzione.................. 650 900 722.2


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I got to see one of those 288 GTO Evo's at the museum last month. Never knew they existed!

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My guess is a chunk of the active members over there are here also.

It would be ridiculous to stay on one forum and not enjoy both unless you were banned permanently

If Stock Pro is here it would be a nice addition - perhaps he is worried that there are no moderators to save him from the dark side here on Ferrari Life
Did you say permanently?

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I got to see one of those 288 GTO Evo's at the museum last month. Never knew they existed!
I couldn't even imagine 722 bhp per tonne that it was quoted as having in its maximum state of tune.... it must be absolutely terrifying to pilot that !

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(Andrew) Stockpro has taken a break from all forums.
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(Andrew) Stockpro has taken a break from all forums.
I miss that guy H20Skier too. He was funny as shit...what's going on with all you North Westerners?!

Andrew pings me once in awhile still though, he recently told me I should take a look at a Nero CS at FoVancouver.

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alwin, H20skier still posts on one certain forum. He's still up to his usual wisecracking tricks on there.
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[QUOTE=355dreamer;253864](Andrew) Stockpro has taken a break from all forums.[/QUOTE

That is the only thread I miss from that place.

Stradale owners and enthusiasts were lucky to have him.
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