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post #1 of 16 Old 02-19-2013, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
 
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Which F430 would be the better bet?

Hi All,

I've been lurking for awhile but decided it was time to jump in since I'm getting pretty close to picking an F430.

I'm moving from an 2011 R8 V10 that I bought new, so I'm not familiar with PPI and the like since my last couple cars have been brand new and haven't required it.

I'm in Madison, WI and found these couple semi-local cars and would love the input of the group on which way they'd go or additional insight on things to look for.

Car 1:
2006 F1 Spider 2500 mi Red/Black
Optioned with Daytonas, lots of carbon fiber and leather choices (both seemed optioned very similarly in this regard)
Tubi exhaust installed (not sure if just cat back or includes headers but would imagine just cat back
Said to be one owner - haven't seen the carfax yet but no reason to believe otherwise yet.
Listed for 169,900 but now at 154500 in negotiations

Car 2:
2007 F1 Spider 9500 miles Red/Tan
Similarleather/carbon options with power seats, as above
Also said to be one owner
Listed for 159000 with recent price drop to 150000, has deposit on car but may fall through tomorrow so would be up for grabs again.

I feel like Car 1 is the better option, but I'm somewhat worried about only 2500 miles. I plan to get a PPI at Autosprint so hopefully they can point out any maintenance issues, but given your experience, what do you guys think?

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post #2 of 16 Old 02-19-2013, 11:46 AM
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I think that R8 is a awsome car BTW. I hope you'll be satisfied

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Are you selling the R8? If so why do you want to sell her if you don't mind me asking? Both are good choices.
BTW, The R8 is one of my favorite cars!
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Welcome to Ferrari Life. Either of those sounds nice, although I would tend to lean towards the really low mileage car because it is almost new. There were updates for the 07MY, but those were pretty insignificant. In MY08, CCMs and a CTEK battery charger became standard.

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Personally, I vote for car 2. Red/tan is more "desireable" than red/black. Plus, 9,500 miles is not a big number, provided that the car has been cared for during those miles. Enthusiast miles are OK, abusive miles are (obviously) not.
Also, I'm cheap. The second car is cheaper, and therefore appeals to my cheapness.

Good luck, either car seems awesome.

Edit: I also think the R8 V10 is an awesome supercar, and in my personal opinion, probably the best supercar in its class. But it doesn't have the heart and soul of a Ferrari F430.
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That question (why sell the R8) has come up a few times after asking around. Honestly, I just like trying new cars and now that depreciation has brought the F430 down to sane levels I'm anxious to get into a Ferrari and try it out. By trading the R8 I'll be able to keep payments just about the same as they are now, so financially it will be very similarly to keep the R8 vs switch.

I love the R8 and it is a fantastic all around car. I imagine I will miss several things (full screen navigation, great sound system, heated seats, ipod integration to name a few) but I think the raw awesomeness of the F430 may win with me. I'm a young guy (28) so for me the all out sporting nature of the F car I think trumps some creature comforts right now.

My biggest worry seems to be about the very low miles. In one sense it is good, but in another it means it barely got used and I worry about things being stale. The sales guy sent me a service record, but it was only one from last August. I hope that means it didn't sit for six years and then get fluids changed. I plan to get a PPI either way so maybe they can help ease my mind a bit!
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Both are low miles.
Tan interior and one year newer would get my vote.

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My vote goes for car 1, black daytona seats always +1 for me!

R8 is just like a Panamera... Quick, very well build, and you can always count on it... But on the other side maybe a little bit boring i.m.o. (No big emotions involved if you know what i mean)

So excellent you want to trade the R8 in for a F430, i'm sure you will enjoy it
Good Luck!!
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Car 1

Tubi sounds are hard to beat.

Best of luck!

There is a nice Ferrari event this fall in your area - hope to see you there!
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I bought my 2008 Spider with 2000 miles on it, IMO there are advantages and disadvantages of buying a low mileage car:

Interior is likely cleaner on Car 1 with very little leather creases, the whole thing will feel brand new. and you get to drive the thing a lot and not worry much about mileage, by the time you get used to the car and F1 you'll probably need a couple of thousand miles. Also, probability of car 1 being abused is less likely at 2,500 miles.

Only disadvantage of car 1 is 2,500 miles in 6 years is really low, that's about 400 miles a year, if there are any issues with the car (from factory) they have probably not been addressed. But I'd still take Car 1 over Car 2. Have them run a PPI and the headers checked, install the Capristo brackets, take it easy for about 1,000 miles and your good to go
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Thanks for the advice, all.

I since found out that the ultra low mileage car doesn't have a very complete service history (dealership only had the last service record) so I'm moving away from that one.

Also, it had the original 7 year old tires on it so dumping a couple grand into new tires right away wasn't something I wanted to do.

It is a very pretty car and is at Bentley Gold Coast if you want to look at pics on their web site if anyone else is interested. I got them down to 154 with a pretty high value on my trade even though it is listed at 169 so it might still be a good car for someone at that price.

We will see what happens with the higher mileage car later today when I find out if his deal fell through or not. is a...
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With that kind of mileage, having only the last service record would not bother me in the slightest. You can bring the entire service up to date for about $1500 with a complete fluid and filter change, including an F1 fluid change and bleed procedure.

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Agree with Terry but not a fan of BGC - whatsoever.
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Agree with Terry but not a fan of BGC - whatsoever.
Hmmm, too bad. They have two 456s right now and both look great.
We were thinking of going to look at the NART blue one.
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I've seen the 06 430 car in person. Its pristine, but as Doug said BGC is a concern. There is a Lake Forest 07 Spider that I saw while checking out a car. It is a 859 mi car, it is outstanding, better yet the car was sold by the dealership and serviced by them. But the color is grigio silverstone / bordeaux, I think it looks very classy. I eventually bought the 16M from the dealership, so far I have had a good experience and the dealership has been very courteous.
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Hmmm, too bad. They have two 456s right now and both look great.
We were thinking of going to look at the NART blue one.
Care to PM me with your feedback?
Dave they very well may have a good one - it's worth a shot.

You are a smart guy - BGC not so much.
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