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post #1 of 6 Old 12-22-2012, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
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New to forum, planning to buy

I'm very glad to have found this active discussion board.

I'm looking for a F430 Spider - '05-'07 <10K miles, nero daytona over tan. Found it a few days ago in Houston and moved quickly, but not quickly enough.

Questions for my own education:

1. If I have full service records and clean carfax, low miles, is a PPI really necessary?

2. How can I locate a trusty inspector in a far away city experienced inspecting a Ferrari?

3. Will the dealer accommodate the inspector (allow him into the shop and maybe even put it on the lift)?

Thanks for any help.
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post #2 of 6 Old 12-22-2012, 10:06 AM
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Welcome to Ferrari Life.

My opinion.....

1. If I have full service records and clean carfax, low miles, is a PPI really necessary?
Yes

2. How can I locate a trusty inspector in a far away city experienced inspecting a Ferrari?
I'd start by asking around here.

3. Will the dealer accommodate the inspector (allow him into the shop and maybe even put it on the lift)?
If he doesn't, then I would start worrying about what's being hidden.

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post #3 of 6 Old 12-23-2012, 12:07 PM
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I think a PPI is more imOrtant than having all of the service records... These newer cars that are chain driven instead of belts are not as finicky as older ferraris... I would say if you find one with low miles and PPI checks out then you should be ok... But have them chech everything... Compression test leakdown test get readout on clutch wear breaks etc. but Tom me PPI is a must if dealer won't let you have it checked out walk away! Unless if you are buying with a warranty.
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post #4 of 6 Old 12-23-2012, 12:46 PM
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I'm very glad to have found this active discussion board.

I'm looking for a F430 Spider - '05-'07 <10K miles, nero daytona over tan. Found it a few days ago in Houston and moved quickly, but not quickly enough.

Questions for my own education:

1. If I have full service records and clean carfax, low miles, is a PPI really necessary?

2. How can I locate a trusty inspector in a far away city experienced inspecting a Ferrari?

3. Will the dealer accommodate the inspector (allow him into the shop and maybe even put it on the lift)?

Thanks for any help.
Good luck with your search- I am sure you will find what you want

In terms of 1 This thread is really worth reading.

http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/fe...uring-ppi.html

I went with one with a fully serviced car at a dealer I had bought from and knew well. There are always issues that are unknown and at least they can be used for leverage or so you can have things dealt with as necessary.

Most dealers are used to bringing the cars to a local independent or dealer to have a ppi done at this level. Period. In my experience when they saw anywhere but XXX, walk away. I had someone say that about Algar in PA and I knew I did not want to risk that transaction.

If you go without a PPI, then consider a Ferrari dealer with some level of warranty (extra cost) or not.

In the end, it is all about risk tolerance. I agree with your implied position- if you get a one owner car, well serviced, with reasonable ( not low) miles, all campaigns etc, your risk is low, but never zero.

After a PPI.I have been surprised by findings on Ferraris and other cars that looked good, me, sounded good, and had records And most of the time, the owner/dealer was willing to work with me on price to make a reasonable deal. Most of us would when selling.

Read that thread. It makes for a good representation of opinions.

Scott

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post #5 of 6 Old 12-28-2012, 08:28 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the responses. I'm going for the PPI, but it doesn't seem prudent to ask the dealer I'm buying from to conduct it.

Guess I can find another dealer in the area and ask them to conduct it, but the Ferrari family is small and close knit. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but it seems a few technicians would be inspecting each others' cars all the time, leading to "friendships."

Thoughts??

Thanks again.

Dennis
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Dennis- Welcome. Find an independent with an SD3 to do the PPI. That way if there is something wrong, but you still want the car, you have two choices for who does the repair or cosmetic fix.

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