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post #1 of 21 Old 12-02-2012, 11:29 AM Thread Starter
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360 Won't Start!

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I stopped for gas today after about 30 miles of driving and when I got in to leave the car would not start. The trans shifted to neutral, the "Check OK" messge came up and all the usual but the starter would not turn on. I didn't see any dimming of the panel or the usual symptoms of a low battery. I would be surprised if the battery were low since it was on a trickle charger all week and started perfectly to go on my drive.

Any sage advice would be very welcome.

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post #2 of 21 Old 12-02-2012, 12:00 PM
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Is it cranking and just not turning over or nothing at all?

If it's just cranking away it could be the immobilizer. This happened to me once a few months after I got my 360 when I forgot to "double-beep."
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post #3 of 21 Old 12-02-2012, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
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@kulferrari - The starter doesn't do anything. I can hear what I think is the clutch retracting when I turn the key to "start" but nothing else. The alarm system acts fine. I get two beeps when I should and the LED goes out. I'm at a loss for normal stuff.

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post #4 of 21 Old 12-02-2012, 05:37 PM
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Still might be the battery. All that other stuff will happen, but battery still does not have enough to turn it over. Good luck.
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What brand battery charger do you use and how old is your battery?
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Hope it's something simple.I hope it's not anything to do with the F1 clutch system.
Clutch sensor or release bearing stuck.
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Jeff- Really sounds like a dead cell in your battery. When I took my car to my techs for its last annual, she started fine and worked like a champ when I drove her down there. When my techs tried to start her later that day, nothing. Had to replace the battery, which had a dead cell, so perfect timing from my point of view. Interstate MTP-91 was 5-6 years old, so got my money's worth out of it.

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post #8 of 21 Old 12-03-2012, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
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Guys,

Thanks for all the help. The car was towed to the house and I immediately hooked it up to my battery maintainer. As it was getting dark I tried the car again. It started completely normally. I let it idle for about 15 minutes since I had turned the system off and on in my desperation. I pulled it into the garage and put it away.

I have a question, if the clutch were sticking would the car shift in and out of gear normally with the engine off? The reason I ask is that the car seemed to want to "keep going" as I was manuvering into the garage. I just had cluch work done in mid-October.

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post #9 of 21 Old 12-03-2012, 03:32 PM
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Jeff- Do you mean it felt like the clutch was not opening when you were bringing her to a stop? If it does not, the engine will stall. You might want to take her to the shop next time she starts and let them check her over. A bad battery can cause all kinds of trouble. One of my 575M buddies always started his car in gear (I never do that) and let the F1 system select neutral for him. One day he tried that with a weak battery and the car jumped and almost hit the front of his garage.

Batteries get one chance with me. One hint they are bad and a new one goes in. Too cheap to fiddle around and have another problem.

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post #10 of 21 Old 12-03-2012, 04:44 PM
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Im a firm belevier in not taking chances with batterys, the first time you have a problem and get stuck the price is usually 3 times the price of the battery that you still need, and its always at the most humilating time possable like a wedding or the first time your showing a friend your new toy.If your not sure how old it is change it, other than the air in the tires,its the cheapest part on your car
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I'm glad it was just the battery. You should have you mechanic clear any fault codes and maybe reset the clutch parameters.
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Jeff, as advised by Terry and Alex, a good battery is vital for the electronics. When the ECU's are underpowered, all weird behaviors can be expected and its pretty easy to underpower them below the minimum required 8V when cranking the engine. I'm not 100% sure for the 360 but on the 430, you can select R, N and 1st gear while engine off.
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Yes, the 360 has the same feature in being able to work the paddles with the engine off. I'm in the habit of shifting to neutral before starting and applying emergency brake; also shifting to 1st when engine is powered down with key still in second position.
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Blu- I always shift to neutral before starting, too, but just shut her down directly from 1st gear, which is way lower than reverse on the 360 and 575M. Ratios are closer on the F430, but 1st is still lower (higher numerically).

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Thanks for the advice, guys. I stopped on the way home this evening and got a new battery. As DonRon said, the cheapest part on the car. I'm charging it now and install once it's ready.

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Jeff- While you are at it, check and make sure the ground cable is securely attached to the chassis. That can cause problems, too.

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Guys,

I put in the new battery yesterday and did all the relearn procedures. Everything seems completely normal.

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Happy to hear all is well.
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Jeff- I love a happy ending.

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