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post #1 of 19 Old 10-26-2012, 06:38 PM Thread Starter
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buying 360 or 430 spider

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Previously i have posted a thread regarding buying a 430 spider manuel. unfortunately some hiccups arised and deal might not go through. In my area manuel is becoming extremely rare so choices are absolutely limited. That 430 is the only one in the market so there is no other choice now. However recently i checked out a 360 spider manuel and the car is beautifully maintain. my queation is whether i should continue hunting for a 430 or if you think a 360 spider is worth keeping. Do understand the issue of timing belt the whole issue here is to find a car worth keeping. I dont intend to change car as frequently as before as my passion is now back in manuel transmission. Please advice and thanks in advance.

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dear all

Previously i have posted a thread regarding buying a 430 spider manuel. unfortunately some hiccups arised and deal might not go through. In my area manuel is becoming extremely rare so choices are absolutely limited. That 430 is the only one in the market so there is no other choice now. However recently i checked out a 360 spider manuel and the car is beautifully maintain. my queation is whether i should continue hunting for a 430 or if you think a 360 spider is worth keeping. Do understand the issue of timing belt the whole issue here is to find a car worth keeping. I dont intend to change car as frequently as before as my passion is now back in manuel transmission. Please advice and thanks in advance.

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As incredible the features and ride of the 430 IMO the 360 body style is unmatched. If your choice is an 03-04 with full history and beautiful, there's little doubt it be with you for a long time and won't disappoint.

The 360 engine is solid and don't consider the belts an "issue". The 3yr maintenance is easily covered with the increase in base for the equivalent 430 for well over a decade.

With so few available, which is your choice?
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Sounds like you have a choice between finding an F1 F430 or a three pedal 360. The F430 is newer, faster, more expensive and has chains instead of belts. The 360 is prettier to me, cheaper, slower, and needs belts every three years, but those belts are relatively inexpensive to change.

Have you driven either car so you have some idea of which you prefer? Nobody can make that choice for you and nobody but you can know whether you will be happy with a 360 instead of an F430. I have an F1 car and love it, and it is a generation behind the F430 F1, which is very good.

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If it were me

360 go with a manual

430 go with the F1

Go get the 360 and enjoy it!
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I am a relative new owner fcar owner, but here s my 2 cents after having gone down a steep learning curve. If you want to drive it FAST and HARD I have been told by my mechanic that the 430 is a better option because of the bigger motor. Also I would buy a car with more miles (20k) and take the discount and then drive the heck out of it. Too much focus on low miles for resale, can make you paranoid about putting miles on the car, but if your going to keep it that does not matter and 20k is still new.
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360 go with a manual

430 go with the F1

Go get the 360 and enjoy it!
+1, the manual does work better in the 360 than 430. The 360 was designed around both, the 430 really only for the F1.
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Thanks for all the feedbacks.

Having owned both the R35 GTR and Gallardo Spyder Egear I would consider myself as relatively experience with seq gearboxs. Yes they are very fast indeed and I have driven both on road as well as track. Both car I have touched 300km/hr (may be a little less with the lambo) on highway and since then, and to be honest not young any more, consider God has given me a chance to stay alive after doing all the crazy stunts, has decided to settle with something classic, a convertible with a manuel gearbox. Pure driving pleasure but not to pursue ultimate speed.

The final candidates therefore rounded up to the 360, 430 and the gallardo. But since I have never owned a Fcar before, it is only logical to step into this direction.

The thought of own the last generation of a manuel Fcar, namely the 430 is certainly the first thought, but since choices are not available I guess owning a 360 for now will still be a joyful experience.

Btw during the fustrated period have gone and testdrive the new Pcar 99x ; ) but sorry having driven the Fcar and lambo it just felt too ordinary now........

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Doug is right. Go with the 360 if you want a stick shift.
I've also had the chance to drive 458s, cali's, 612s, FFs, 430s, all with F1 gearbox. They are all fast but I'm still keeping my 360 stick shift as the feel and action is just so engaging and fun. But it wont be the fastest on the track or open road, but who cares when u are having fun.
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Some good calls here. Honestly, it's making me rethink my position of getting a 360 Spider F1, and instead getting the same car with the 3 pedal gearbox! I like the sound of 'pure driving pleasure,' and suppose an argument could be made for enhanced pleasure with the 3 pedal over the F1. I won't track this car, and I've been driving sequential boxes since 2003, so I am proficient with both setups.

360 3 pedal cars seem to be a little bit scarcer, at least in the Red/Tan/Spider combo. But I've also seen them command a slightly lower price, go figure....

I think a deciding factor may be the wifey (as usual, right?). She cannot drive a standard gearbox, does not intend to learn, and has expressed interest in driving the Ferrari periodically. And I want to encourage her to drive it, as I do with all of my cars because my cars are a lot nicer than hers.

Looks like, for me, the F1 gearbox may be the winner. For the OP, if 3 pedals are a must have, I too would vote for the 360. You probably can't go wrong either way though!!!
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Raj- Worldwide, there were 2119 three pedal 360s and 5460 with the F1 system, 28% three pedal.

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About 2 years ago during a tech session at Wynn Ferrari a question was asked - what is the most durable Ferrari on the road today and will provide me the most fun with the lowest maintenance costs.

In other words - they guy wanted the best Ferrari bang for the buck.

The head tech said without hesitation the 430 manual.

F1's are a blast to drive - IMO it was perfected in the Scud.
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Raj- Worldwide, there were 2119 three pedal 360s and 5460 with the F1 system, 28% three pedal.
Terry, I know the question has been asked before but maybe more data exists now. Is the color breakdown available and where they were at least first delivered to?
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Raj- Worldwide, there were 2119 three pedal 360s and 5460 with the F1 system, 28% three pedal.
I knew the 3-pedal arrangement was more rare than the F1. Thanks for the data comparison!
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I have no data on colors or destinations except the UK from Maranello Concessionaires and Jonathan.

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430 UK details for comparison.

430 coupe manual - 129
430 coupe F1 - 731
430 spider manual - 128
430 spider F1 - 847

'SCUD' Verb. To move fast as if driven by the wind.
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Winsome,

During our search we drove both an 430 F1 and a 360 3-pedal, and went with the latter. We like everything about it more; smooth exterior lines, traditional interior, and the stick just feels right.

Sure the 430 is faster, but where and how we drive, we'd never know.

I say go with the 360, I garantee you'll love it.

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Yes the side lines flow better on the 360, but don't let the pics fool you, put them side by side (search Flickr for some shots) and you'll find it hard to say the 360 looks better, the finish of various body panels is much more refined on the 430. Also the interior is more modern.

We had a small Ferrari meet last month with a couple of 360's, 430's and 458's, for those not very familiar with the brand they thought the 430 was the latest model!!!

With that said, at the current 360 prices it is hard to justify the additional cost, but only you can decide what matters to you.
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My first car was a VW GTI manuel (28yrs ago ;0) since then I been hooked with stick shift. And after owning cars with seq gearbox it further reinforced the fact that a sportscar with stick shift just satisfy me much more. For long term investment I would still prefer a 430 stick knowing that it is the last generation with manuel gearbox that Ferrari rolled out of the factory. I am still going to keep looking but meanwhile I will just settle with a 360 stick. Both are indeed different. The finishing on the 430 is better but in my personal opinion the 360 sounds better with the intake and exhaust note. I like the higher pitch of the 360 better whereas 430 exhaust note became lower in pitch, it has changed quite a bit in charateristic compare to 355 and 360.

If only I can strike a good deal now.
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Welcome winsome

I will say just be patient and keep looking. They are out there. We all know there are limited choices out there but if you keep looking and looking you will find the right one.

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