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post #1 of 19 Old 04-05-2012, 06:36 AM Thread Starter
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Key replacement options

I have a silver key for my 360 and it is in really sad shape. Theres almost no paint left on it!

What are my options for replacement that are reasonable? I see an "enzo key" on Ebay for like $600 and then I see a key on ferrari.com for like $265 for the 430. What are the differences? Do they come blank and need to be cut? What about programming, are they smart keys or what?

Also, my car didn't come with the Red Fob.. Uh oh, I remember reading somewhere this was a bad deal. I've got calls into the shop where the original owners had it serviced in hopes they will be able to contact him and see if he still has it.. We'll see.. What does it mean if you dont have the red fob?

I tried searching but it only allows you to search for words that are longer than three letters and "360 Red Fob" won't work!
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post #2 of 19 Old 04-05-2012, 07:57 AM
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I bought an aftermarket key blank on eBay that looks like the 430 key and had it cut at my local locksmith.

Works great and looks cool. IIRC, it was around $150.

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WB- Here is the story on fobs.

Inexpensive key blanks are available for the 360 from Ricambi. There are various Enzo repros available with blanks that must be cut that will work. Original Enzo blanks are prohibitively expensive, but used ones with new key blanks epoxied in are more reasonable.

The F430 keys are for a completely different alarm system, but one of our FLifers has extensively modified one to work on his 360. Those blanks, however, are ~$800 from Ferrari.
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Wow, what a pain! So if I lose the one and ONLY fob I have or it goes inoperable, I have to buy an ECU and 3 fobs from Ferrari? Did I read that right?
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WB- Do you have the alarm PIN? If not, you can always clone your existing fob for a back-up.

The most expensive option is to buy the entire kit with ECU, immobilizer, and three fobs matched to the ECU.

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I *may* have the PIN in the owners book but not sure until I get the car here and look for myself. I didn't go through it very closely. If I have the pin, I can order a new fob as a backup? I thought it said you couldn't do that..
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WB- You cannot, but you can get just a new set of three fobs for less than $1K, compared to ~$2K for a complete kit. See if the dealer has any extra fobs lying around that he will give you for cloning. That is the cheapest way to go.

I have even provided sets of three matching fobs to owners for considerably less. So far Eric355 and I are 9 for 9 on this side of the Atlantic for people successfully programming their alarm ECU to accept the new sets with new PIN.

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If you have a PIN. Try it imediately. If it works you have a way to start the car without the fob. You can then have your fob cloned. If your PIN does not work you will be totally reliant upon the fob. Also know that if you change the alarm ecu you will need to rotate the motronic ecus that run your engine. You get one shot at this before you have to replace the motronics as well.
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Inexpensive key blanks can be bought here: Linky.
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Just adding to the paint missing key problem, mine was doing the same thing for my 01 360 spider. I simply removed the chrome prancing horse and sanded my key down and painted it Ferrari Red! Came out like brand new!!!!
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Just adding to the paint missing key problem, mine was doing the same thing for my 01 360 spider. I simply removed the chrome prancing horse and sanded my key down and painted it Ferrari Red! Came out like brand new!!!!
I had a 430 key re-sprayed while the car was being detailed, looks like new again!
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I think I'll steal your idea and have mine painted red to start with and then try to track down another fob and all that!

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WB- Here is the story on fobs.

Inexpensive key blanks are available for the 360 from Ricambi. There are various Enzo repros available with blanks that must be cut that will work. Original Enzo blanks are prohibitively expensive, but used ones with new key blanks epoxied in are more reasonable.

The F430 keys are for a completely different alarm system, but one of our FLifers has extensively modified one to work on his 360. Those blanks, however, are ~$800 from Ferrari.
I was lucky enough to have come across Terry and Eric in Ferrari Chat, and exchanged 3 fobs that did not work (I had the red one that has the factory PIN) and Terry exchanged it for a new red with a new PIN with two black fobs with little or no cost. I saved about $3k at the dealer.. I had a key from Ebay and a Fiat blank cut into 2 keys (the fiat blank was at Ebay also). Now I have fobs and spare keys. If I could only solve the CEL light on a car with 1600 miles, I would be happy (without a zillion dollars cost at the dealer).
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Welcome to Ferrari Life. Glad the matched set of three fobs worked out for you.

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Hello to everyone just like you I'm one of those who jump in for the love of Ferrari not knowing
what the future will bring. Is there someone who could clone the black fob key here in Los Angeles?
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Hi,

I repainted my key myself. It is a relatively easy job. Let me know if you want details.
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BB- Must have missed your post. Welcome to Ferrari Life. The two fob cloners I know who are 100% reliable are in the Midwest and Southern France. PM me if you need contact information.

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Hi! Alan

I know its an old thread but would really appreciate if you can share details on how you repainted your key.

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I repainted my key myself. It is a relatively easy job. Let me know if you want details.
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I used masking tape over the little horse, lightly sanded the key body, and just used a spray can.
Came out looking like a new key.

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