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View Poll Results: Which exhaust for a 360 Modena?
Tubi 20 24.69%
Capristo 21 25.93%
Larini 4 4.94%
Novitec 0 0%
X-OST 2 2.47%
Standard Ferrari 8 9.88%
Other 26 32.10%
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post #41 of 129 Old 04-20-2012, 01:38 PM
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Barry- The CS exhaust was also used on the F430. Sounds nice, has valves. If you get a good price, go for it.

Incidentally, have you seen Mattel's new Elite 308 GT4? Unfortunately has Elvis' wire wheels, but buy one of their 308 GTBs and swap wheels and exhaust and it will look just like your car.
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Might have an option to install a new OEM Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale exhaust on my 360.

Anybody done this before? What kind of sound could I expect? Better than a Capristo / Tubi / others? I do like the idea of it being Ferrari OEM but that's not the be all and end all.


I really like the CS exhaust and unlike the Capristos it is well made. The Tubi can be a little boomy. To me the Capristos sound like someone gargling with gravel but the CS is good.

I have not seen dyno testing on the 360 systems but I can tell you that on the TR's the factory muffler makes the most HP. They dont do everything wrong.
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Incidentally, have you seen Mattel's new Elite 308 GT4? Unfortunately has Elvis' wire wheels, but buy one of their 308 GTBs and swap wheels and exhaust and it will look just like your car.
Very cool Terry. Don't fancy elvis's taste in wheels mind you. At least not on a Dino GT4. Interesting that it has Euro bumpers but US sidelights and exhaust. I wonder how accurate to the real car it actually is?

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Barry- Can probably find out. Not too difficult to change her to make it look like yours. The same scale 308 GTBs are available over here for less than $40.

If you wait, though, they will probably make a non-Elvis version soon.

Apparently pretty close. The car may have been yellow originally and is still on display at Graceland.
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I really like the CS exhaust and unlike the Capristos it is well made. The Tubi can be a little boomy. To me the Capristos sound like someone gargling with gravel but the CS is good.

I have not seen dyno testing on the 360 systems but I can tell you that on the TR's the factory muffler makes the most HP. They dont do everything wrong.
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Barry- The CS exhaust was also used on the F430. Sounds nice, has valves. If you get a good price, go for.
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Do you know if the valves open automatically at a certain RPM? I assume theres no driver intervention? If so any idea what rpm? I still need to satisfy my local regs of less than 100 dB at 4,000 rpm.

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Barry- The Motronic ECU determines when they open and the schedule is different for various models. On the F355, the schedule is different depending on which gear you are in. Stef has published the F430 schedule shown below, and I know when it opens on the 575M. The 550 says to check the valves at 5000 rpm and wide open throttle to make sure they are opening.

The valves open on the later cars at a combination of throttle opening and rpm (earlier were rpm and WOT), so you may be able to sneak by with low throttle setting and 4000 rpm. Let me do some looking in the WSM, but I do not remember seeing specifics.

Here are Stef's F430 schedules. Trouble is the F430 uses Motronic 7.3, IIRC, and the 360 is 7.1.1. Also bypass opening on the F430 is also affected by the mannetino setting, but do not think being in normal or sport affects it in the 360. For the test, though, I would be in normal just in case.

You should be able to reach 4000 rpm easily on about 1/3 throttle.
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Barry- The Motronic ECU determines when they open and the schedule is different for various models. On the F355, the schedule is different depending on which gear you are in. Stef has published the F430 schedule shown below, and I know when it opens on the 575M. The 550 says to check the valves at 5000 rpm and wide open throttle to make sure they are opening.

The valves open on the later cars at a combination of throttle opening and rpm (earlier were rpm and WOT), so you may be able to sneak by with low throttle setting and 4000 rpm. Let me do some looking in the WSM, but I do not remember seeing specifics.

Here are Stef's F430 schedules. Trouble is the F430 uses Motronic 7.3, IIRC, and the 360 is 7.1.1. Also bypass opening on the F430 is also affected by the mannetino setting, but do not think being in normal or sport affects it in the 360. For the test, though, I would be in normal just in case.

You should be able to reach 4000 rpm easily on about 1/3 throttle.
Thanks Terry! If you find anything specific to the360 would be great to see it.

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Thanks Terry! If you find anything specific to the360 would be great to see it.


It is controlled by Motronic so it will be exactly the same as you have now.
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Brian- His 360 has a custom exhaust that is unvalved.

Barry- The European versions open at 70% throttle at 2920 rpm. No info on the US versions, but should be about the same. Like I said, low throttle opening and 4000 rpm should find them still closed.

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Nouvalari?

Thinking about one of these maybe?

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Barry- Do they make a valved version?

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Barry- Do they make a valved version?
I don't think so Terry, but I'm waiting on a reply re this and also on a confirmation that their dB rating is under 100 dB at 4,000 rpm. Apparently it is approx 107 dB at red line rpm.

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I don't think so Terry, but I'm waiting on a reply re this and also on a confirmation that their dB rating is under 100 dB at 4,000 rpm. Apparently it is approx 107 dB at red line rpm.
Looks like the Nouvalari (unvalued) system is under my 100dB at 4,000 rpm.

Anybody have a Nouvalari system on their car (either a 360 or any other F car?) or have you seen/heard one? Would appreciate any observations or comments on them for those who might know....

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I have the SS Nouvalari but can't hear it as my car is down for a week or more having the ECU flashed to try and get my OBDII issue sorted and register the car....FRUSTRATED....

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Need to bump this thread. I'm close to swapping out the stock exhaust on my 2004 360. I'm fairly certain I'm going with the Capristo Twin sound, however, I'm still ruling out other possibilities. This leads me to my question. I see Ferrari offers a racing exhaust for the 360 and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with this exhaust (have it, know anyone that has it, how does it sound, is it too loud, etc...)

For me the upgrade of the exhaust is primarily a sound upgrade with the performance increase being secondary which is where the Capristo is nice because I can control the noise level to some extent.

Any info available is appreciated. Thanks,
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I have the Larini system on my QP and have yet to hear a nicer sounding exhaust note. Truly spectacular. To the point of wanting to sell my F360's Tubi for a Larini. But would like to hear it on a 360 first.
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Need to bump this thread. I'm close to swapping out the stock exhaust on my 2004 360. I'm fairly certain I'm going with the Capristo Twin sound, however, I'm still ruling out other possibilities. This leads me to my question. I see Ferrari offers a racing exhaust for the 360 and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with this exhaust (have it, know anyone that has it, how does it sound, is it too loud, etc...)

For me the upgrade of the exhaust is primarily a sound upgrade with the performance increase being secondary which is where the Capristo is nice because I can control the noise level to some extent.

Any info available is appreciated. Thanks,
The factory racing exhaust for a 360 is the exact same as a Challenge Stradale exhaust. This is what I bought and is on my car. It is the best in my opinion. I like having the valves closed when the engine is not under a load. Screams when your foot is in it. If you decide on this set up, you will have to have longer vacuum tubes because the valves are in a different location from stock and the mounting bracket is totally different. Hope this is helpful.

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The factory racing exhaust for a 360 is the exact same as a Challenge Stradale exhaust. This is what I bought and is on my car. It is the best in my opinion. I like having the valves closed when the engine is not under a load. Screams when your foot is in it. If you decide on this set up, you will have to have longer vacuum tubes because the valves are in a different location from stock and the mounting bracket is totally different. Hope this is helpful.

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Thanks Nate, this is the type of info I was looking for. Is the sound much more aggressive than stock when the valves are still closed? I admit, I'd like a little more sound on the low end too. Does this provide that?

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Thanks Nate, this is the type of info I was looking for. Is the sound much more aggressive than stock when the valves are still closed? I admit, I'd like a little more sound on the low end too. Does this provide that?

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Definitely more aggressive than stock @ idle. Sounds like a CS. I had my valves disconnected on the stock system. Better but nothing like the CS setup. Go for it. You won't regret it.

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Thanks Nate, this is the type of info I was looking for. Is the sound much more aggressive than stock when the valves are still closed? I admit, I'd like a little more sound on the low end too. Does this provide that?

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This is my 360 w a 430 exhaust (aka. CS or sport exhaust). It seems to have 3 diff levels: rumble to 3500rpm; loud to 5000rpm; scream about 5500+rpm.

I found this to be the best choice to stay OEM + Inexpensive (used 430 exhaust) + still getting the sound I wanted.

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