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waterboy222 03-15-2012 01:26 PM

Things to look for in a higher mileage 360...
 
When considering a higher mileage (18k+) 360, what items should the PPI be on the look out for?

The idea of having a 360 thats towards the bottom of the depreciation curve is pretty tempting. There are a lot of reasonably priced cars out there with 20k+ miles. Not knowing a whole lot about the cars other than what I've learned online in the past few weeks, it would *seem* that a 20kmile car that had been taken good care of would still be a reliable choice.

Am I wrong in thinking that most of the kinks and bad parts would have been corrected by 20k? Or is 20k just the beginning of a maintenance nightmare? I have a friend with a 40k+ gallardo and he said its been pretty trouble-free. Just regular maintenance and the occasional hard part replacement. Is this the same with the F cars?

What items would a 20k car need to have addressed if all of the service had been done on time and with a good mechanic?

Example: "02 360 spider F1, 21,000 miles. Full major service done two months ago, clutch and belts, at a ferrari dealership. 30k service completed"

In the PPI, what should I have them "double-check"?

Boxer 03-15-2012 02:55 PM

PM "Harsh", his 360 has over 50k miles on it.

One key item to check on a high mileage 360 is the gearbox. Make sure it isn't due for a rebuild.

MikeR397 03-15-2012 07:05 PM

I bought a 28k mile 360 in October so have some ideas for what to look for:

1. Clutch on 360/F430 is expensive, $5500 - $7500 depending on indy/Ferrari. Check clutch wear. If you have the early TCU (99-2002), then some get neutral jumps between gears around 70% wear and higher. This is what my car was doing, but I put a CS TCU (very hard to find, a 2003-2004 360 TCU is a good alternative and almost as good) and that fixed the neutral jumps and the car shifts and blips better than perfect now. Hope to get close to 100% out of the clutch now, but like I said, it would not have been possible with my earlier year TCU it seems. Regardless, price clutch wear into purchase price.

2. Belts - Are about $1800/$2500 at indy/Ferrari. Then $1k-$1.2k on your traditional annual maintenance. I had a full major, all fluids/belts changed, full inspectiong, for $2.8k.

3. Headers are better on 360 than F430, but look for any burn spots or cracks in PPI. Only 1999 cars did not have precats, the rest do and sometimes overheat and fail from the precats.

4. Check all the other obvious parts - brakes (pads and rotors), tire tread, ect.

Otherwise, that is about it. I agree that a good thing about 20-30k mile 360's is that they have appropriate miles (2-3k miles a year at least) and were actually driven enough to expose most potential problems by now. I've put on 1500 miles on my car, it's pure automotive bliss and I feel like I got the deal of a century :) (not saying my price was abnormal, just that the 360 itself is a fantastic deal and I got a fair or better price ).

ETA: If your hypothecial that a full major (belts + fluids) for 30k service was done, as well as the clutch, then really you should be good to go other than brakes/tires.

FFB 03-15-2012 08:59 PM

Clutch and belts for sure by 20K. Will probably also need new tires, brakes, and probably cosmetic refreshening including seats, stickies and such. Motor mounts are supposed to be a wear item. Definitely get a detailed PPI or CPO if buying from an official Dealer.

DonJuan348 03-27-2012 04:41 AM

Since when is 18 k high miles. I have 62k . And all the things that goes wrong early on has been corrected . That's the advantage of a higher mile car

netman 03-27-2012 01:56 PM

My personal feeling is that a well documented and maintained vehicle with mileage is a better buy that a garage queen with low miles. Unless of course you are going to have the garage queen trailered to your home and sit without use. These modern F cars are vehicles not museum pieces. They are mass produced so there is not the value associated with the F cars of the past produced in small numbers.

Buy something you can afford to not only purchased but also properly maintain. Also have your anticipated purchase undergo a proper PPI. Spending a few bucks upfront will save you in the long run.

Brian 03-27-2012 02:12 PM

I service many 360 with over 50,000 miles. I have one with about 130,000.


No big thing. The one with 130,000 is a daily driver. Interior looks like new.


If you dont drive it like you stole it and maintain it properly going 50,000 + on clutches and six figures + on the drive train should be expected.

Boxer 03-27-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 186417)
I service many 360 with over 50,000 miles. I have one with about 130,000.


No big thing. The one with 130,000 is a daily driver. Interior looks like new.


If you dont drive it like you stole it and maintain it properly going 50,000 + on clutches and six figures + on the drive train should be expected.

Some of the best running 360's I have seen are high mileage cars.

What I just don't understand is why a 360 with 40k miles on it is a high mileage car where a 911 with 40k miles is a low mileage car. Both are well built and designed to be driven regularly.

tazandjan 03-28-2012 09:48 AM

Boxer- Statistics. A very large portion of Porsches are daily drivers and a much smaller portion of Ferraris are DDs.

Brian 03-28-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazandjan (Post 186586)
Boxer- Statistics. A very large portion of Porsches are daily drivers and a much smaller portion of Ferraris are DDs.



The average Ferrari owner has a garage full of cars and chooses a more convienent car for daily use.


Most Porsche owners I know it is their only car.

We have 5 vehicles and 2 drivers, not so long ago it was 8 vehicles. The Ferraris are just not the first choice for slogging to work or going to the hardware store.

We know the cars suffer for it but it is the price we pay.

F1.360.LOVER 03-29-2012 07:40 PM

I bought my 360 2 and a half years ago with 22K, no PPI, just a quick test drive and $12K in receipts for recent work done. I have put over 10K miles on it. These cars are bulletproof.

Nate


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