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post #1 of 32 Old 08-12-2011, 12:54 AM Thread Starter
 
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I want a 360 and i like to be my own mechanic

Hi friends. I want to sell my Porsche Carrera this year to buy an 360 spider (6 gears Manual)model. Iīve always make the maintenance and restoration of my vehicles, and i like make the same with my future Ferrari. Change clutches and belts in my own workshop

You can say if that's possible? or can only do one official Ferrari dealer?


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Im sure with the right tools and skills it's possible. I only wish I could do it with mine.

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Oh, and welcome to Ferrari Life.

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Hi friends. I want to sell my Porsche Carrera this year to buy an 360 spider (6 gears Manual)model. Iīve always make the maintenance and restoration of my vehicles, and i like make the same with my future Ferrari. Change clutches and belts in my own workshop

You can say if that's possible? or can only do one official Ferrari dealer?


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It's doable - big learning curve and the fact you want a manual helps.

Ferrari's can be a workhorse as much as a Porsche. My thought on the issue of high maintenance is most owners simply don't drive their F car enough.

These cars were made to run at very high temps / rpm's.

If you can go for a 03 and up and enjoy
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It's doable - big learning curve and the fact you want a manual helps.

Ferrari's can be a workhorse as much as a Porsche. My thought on the issue of high maintenance is most owners simply don't drive their F car enough.

These cars were made to run at very high temps / rpm's.

If you can go for a 03 and up and enjoy

thanks!!


I hear some times the new Ferrari have an electronic "insurance" for these things. For example: if you try to change the clutch to a F1 360 model, you need a specific electronic hardware of Ferrari to take out the "N" fix of the panel. Without these hardware, the car itīs imposible to turn On.

I donīt know if is true or other "legend" from the Ferrar fans xD
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I hear some times the new Ferrari have an electronic "insurance" for these things. For example: if you try to change the clutch to a F1 360 model, you need a specific electronic hardware of Ferrari to take out the "N" fix of the panel. Without these hardware, the car itīs imposible to turn On.

I donīt know if is true or other "legend" from the Ferrar fans xD
After attending a few tech sessions at Wynn Ferrari - what you are saying after hearing is correct.

The F1 has glitches as my 612 just went in and I spent 600.00 to clear up some shifting issues. The car has 13k miles and plenty of clutch left for another 15k miles.

The computers to scope these cars isn't that big of deal on the F1 - you may want to test drive an F1 as it's a whole new world of technology.
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John- If you go to this website, you can download a set of 360 workshop manuals and you will be able to see what is involved.

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For any of the F1 cars, 355 through 599, an SD1/2/3 or equivalent (Leonardo, ST-05, etc) is required to set point of initilal slip (PIS) on the clutch. For the three pedal version, no problem setting up the clutch.

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After attending a few tech sessions at Wynn Ferrari - what you are saying after hearing is correct.

The F1 has glitches as my 612 just went in and I spent 600.00 to clear up some shifting issues. The car has 13k miles and plenty of clutch left for another 15k miles.

The computers to scope these cars isn't that big of deal on the F1 - you may want to test drive an F1 as it's a whole new world of technology.
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John- If you go to this website, you can download a set of 360 workshop manuals and you will be able to see what is involved.

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For any of the F1 cars, 355 through 599, an SD1/2/3 or equivalent (Leonardo, ST-05, etc) is required to set point of initilal slip (PIS) on the clutch. For the three pedal version, no problem setting up the clutch.

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great. Thanks for the info

Itīs possible for a non professional buy one of these diagnosis tools?

i wanting information but i canīt found prices....


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Terry, thanks for the workshop manual!!! itīs a treasure for me. I download all and i study a lot


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John- Duram Plummer is working on a set of diagnostic tools for Ferraris and the first will be for the 360. He is the person prodccing the Durametric Porsche and similar BMW tools.

The pro tools are all $15K+ and out of reach of most of us.

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John- Duram Plummer is working on a set of diagnostic tools for Ferraris and the first will be for the 360. He is the person prodccing the Durametric Porsche and similar BMW tools.

The pro tools are all $15K+ and out of reach of most of us.

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of.. i think i canīt buy an F1 360 model...

The tool of Mr Plummer costs 15.000$ too?


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John- No, it should be less than $2K. I intend to pick one up for my F1 575M when released.

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John- No, it should be less than $2K. I intend to pick one up for my F1 575M when released.

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Great!!


thanks Phillips itīs a great new for me. I await for when released too
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Hi People. Now, i have the real opportunity for buy one 360 modena F1. I want a spider model, but one person like to change mi 911 Porsche with her 360 modena.

The problem itīs the diganosis system for change the clutch.

Hey Phillipis, do you know when Mr Plummer have the new diagnostic tool for Ferrari? i canīt buy the other tools with 1500 dollar of cost



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John- Soon, I hope. It is already a year late after a rewrite to make it compatible with I-Phones and I-Pads. My techs and I are Beta testers for the 456/550/575 release, so I will hear quickly when the 360 initial release is made. Will probably be called ModenaTech.

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Some additional info from here is

- get a reader, you'll need it to minimally use after bleeding brakes and other tune parts

- Search for anything posted here by "GCALO" [ http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/members/gcalo.html ] + "360" he has posted here quite a bit on the 360 manual and his is a beaut.

Know others have direct insights too. And as always Taz is great wealth of info.

Can search for BRIAN also [Brian Crall aka RIFLEDRIVER http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/members/brian.html ]

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ugggh i recieve a very good offer for my car.... iīm very stressed about that. I can take a ferrari in great condition in next days, but i canīt buy a 360 without diagnostic tool in my mechanichal workshop....

Terry, can i talk with Mr Plummmer? i send you an private message ok?


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Some additional info from here is

- get a reader, you'll need it to minimally use after bleeding brakes and other tune parts
Hi Granucci what is a reader? the diagnostic tool?


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- Search for anything posted here by "GCALO" [ Ferrari Life - View Profile: Gcalo ] + "360" he has posted here quite a bit on the 360 manual and his is a beaut.

Know others have direct insights too. And as always Taz is great wealth of info.

Can search for BRIAN also [Brian Crall aka RIFLEDRIVER Ferrari Life - View Profile: Brian ]

Great. I go to study the messages of these two companion
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John- No, he is talking about a simple OBDII reader designed to read the emissions related codes required by the US DOT. They vary in price from about $50 to ~$300 for a fancy one. They do allow you to do some resetting of engine related transient warnings, like Check Engine Lights, etc. They have no capability for many of the things the SD and similar devices are capable of doing, like suspension, clutch and transmission (F1), instrument panel, air conditioning, doors, seats, etc.

I think it is better if we do not bother Duram while he puts the finishing touches on the diagnostic tool.

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I think it is better if we do not bother Duram while he puts the finishing touches on the diagnostic tool.

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Ohhh Duram.... you are my last hope ....
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