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Fiammenghi Engineering 06-26-2017 01:20 AM

F 456 gt - sport mufflers
 
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Hello friends,
i'm doing the back mufflers for a 456 GT for a dear friend, I based the project from the mufflers that I did for the 550-575, I used the same internal layout for use the bypass valve, I make a suitable inlet connection like the two tail pipes.
My friend likes the inclinated cut tail like the orginals, i make new tails of 80 mm OD with inside pipe od 63.5 mm OD.

For the valve drive, accordinfg with my friend, I will install opened valves without vacuum, we not add control cirquits, we only will connect the valves whit the air intake manifold by means of rubber pipe.
With this arrangement the valves will be closed during slow drive with less percent of throttle, and only when push full throttle they will be open.
Obviously is possible install a little box with electrical cirquit for the manual drive, this made from my brother (elctronic specialist).

Construction is in progress ..., follow some pictures ...

Best at all

Fabio

Killer58 06-26-2017 01:58 AM

Nice Fabio, I can't wait to see the whole setup!

tazandjan 06-27-2017 10:21 AM

Fabio- You are going to have all the V12s that need help covered before too long.

Fiammenghi Engineering 06-27-2017 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tazandjan (Post 716377)
Fabio- You are going to have all the V12s that need help covered before too long.

Hi Terry ....

step by step i will go far ... at least i hope :)

tazandjan 06-28-2017 10:53 AM

Fabio- If it were me, I would have preferred the HGTC style tailpipes, just cut on an angle. Much easier to keep clean.

Fiammenghi Engineering 07-17-2017 08:57 AM

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Hello,

Has been an craftsmanship job and i not knew the result before..but now i'm satisfied ....

Tails for the 456 muffler for my friend is ready, personally i like them ....

Muffler are on welding, this week iwill be ready also the parts for complete the JIG necessary for have good results.

In following pictures the manufacturing process of the tails ...

As soon will be ready i will post other pictures

Fabio

tazandjan 07-17-2017 09:20 AM

Fabio- Those look great.

Killer58 07-17-2017 10:05 AM

Fabio, they look like a work of art !! Beautiful.

Gianni 07-19-2017 01:31 PM

Polishing Steps
 
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Originally Posted by Fiammenghi Engineering (Post 717985)
Hello,

Has been an craftsmanship job and i not knew the result before..but now i'm satisfied ....

Tails for the 456 muffler for my friend is ready, personally i like them ....

Muffler are on welding, this week iwill be ready also the parts for complete the JIG necessary for have good results.

In following pictures the manufacturing process of the tails ...

As soon will be ready i will post other pictures

Fabio

Ciao Fabio,

What were the polishing steps from the original base metal to the final polished finished? Bellisima!

Saluti,
Gianni

Fiammenghi Engineering 07-20-2017 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gianni (Post 718177)
Ciao Fabio,

What were the polishing steps from the original base metal to the final polished finished? Bellisima!

Saluti,
Gianni

Ciao Gianni,

thanks,

I grind with sandpaper the bended edge, after that i gave the parts to a friend who have a specialized shop for polishing ....
Mterial is AISI 316 in order to have great corrosion resistance.

Kindlky

Fabio

Gianni 07-20-2017 06:48 AM

Polishing Exhaust Tips
 
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Originally Posted by Fiammenghi Engineering (Post 718217)
Ciao Gianni,

thanks,

I grind with sandpaper the bended edge, after that i gave the parts to a friend who have a specialized shop for polishing ....
Mterial is AISI 316 in order to have great corrosion resistance.

Kindlky

Fabio

Caro Fabio,

If possible, could you please ask your friend at the specialized shop for the polishing steps? I suspect that your friend uses different sanding grits to start (probably with water), then polishing pastes with different grit, using rotary polishers.

The reason I ask is because my 456M GT exhaust tips have unpleasantly discoloured (bruto) and I would like to bring them back to a mirror finish. Knowing the correct detailed steps would certainly save me a lot of time experimenting.

Saluti,
Gianni

Gianni 07-20-2017 07:10 AM

Ciao Fabio,

I found many YouTube videos for polishing stainless steel, but they were all for flat products. Then I got lucky and found a video for polishing tubular products, including exhaust tips...whoohoo!


I know what to do know.

Saluti,
Gianni

Fiammenghi Engineering 07-20-2017 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gianni (Post 718265)
Ciao Fabio,

I found many YouTube videos for polishing stainless steel, but they were all for flat products. Then I got lucky and found a video for polishing tubular products, including exhaust tips...whoohoo!

I know what to do know.

Saluti,
Gianni

Ciao Gianni,

yes they use same procedure, I have this also this tool in my shop but I prefer go to a specialized shop and use my time for other activity ...

Fabio

dave rocks 07-20-2017 09:42 AM

Beautiful work, Fabio :)

Fiammenghi Engineering 07-20-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dave rocks (Post 718281)
Beautiful work, Fabio :)

Ciao Dave,

thanks ... as your :)

Fiammenghi Engineering 10-05-2017 06:57 AM

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Hello Guys,

some updates ...

I'm on the manufacturing of two muffler for the 456 of my friend, next saturday i will complete.

About bypass control, after speaking with him about his needs ..I thought to do the follow configuration:
- bypass normally opened
- rubber pipe between air intake manifold and th evaccuum actuator
- nothing switch

In this way the expected function is following:

- at start bypass are opnen and will be closed after approx half second
- during driving with less percentual of gas (30/40% to be verify) bypasses are closed due to the intake manifold vacuum.
- when gas pedal id pushed over 30/40% , the intake manifold vacuum go down and bypass will open ...

This at least in theory ....

My friend two weeks ago did a test, and result is was positive!
The pedal position that open the bypasses can be adjusted, by means of modification of the vacuum actuator spring preload, however my friend id happy, at least for his taste.

Him asked me also to indicate my "logo" on the tails... i'm contrary but he wanted ....

Following some pictures of the tails and of the muffler on the welding jig.

Fabio

Fiammenghi Engineering 10-10-2017 04:31 AM

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Hello,
mufflers are completed, tomorrow will be welded the last things, the tails.
Following some pictures about the last phases.
Note: mufflers is partially covered by plastic film for protection during manufacturing operations.

Fiammenghi Engineering 10-17-2017 03:49 AM

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Hello,
mufflers for my friend are ready .. next week they will be installed.
some pictures

Fiammenghi Engineering 10-17-2017 04:13 AM

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Hi,
the construction of the new mufflers sets for a friend who live in California is started....
follow the tails process ....



tazandjan 10-17-2017 09:37 AM

Fabio- Did you figure out how to operate the valves on the 456/456M?


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