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post #21 of 29 Old 10-07-2015, 11:56 AM
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david could you check your reports to see what type copper content you usually see? that would be very nice of you ?
Here's some good info on the subject and sample report...
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/engine-oil-analysis/

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Ferrari updated the guides on the F355 to sintered steel late in production, but never did on the 456M or 550.

Dave- True, not 100% on the leak down test, but a good indication something is wrong and part of the diagnosis trail.
I have to say, its pretty pathetic that Ferrari had this issue at all ,now again, with these later models...how in Gods name, could they make the same mistake on the 456 and 550...Its disgusting,,with that being said, my 89 328 has 97,000 miles, and burns no oil at all....

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I have to say, its pretty pathetic that Ferrari had this issue at all ,now again, with these later models...how in Gods name, could they make the same mistake on the 456 and 550...Its disgusting,,with that being said, my 89 328 has 97,000 miles, and burns no oil at all....

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Please realize a few things:

- valve guide issues, while true, are often mis diagonosed and therefore blown out of proportion.

- Ferrari is a low volume builder compared to other cars.

- These are very high performance road cars.

Mix it all together and stuff happens. If you want a boring, reliable car, look away from Ferrari. This may sound really stupid but I enjoy learning and working on my cars as I do driving them. Aside from being stranded, I somewhat look forward to issues that I can sort. Yeah, I know I'm not normal
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Mix it all together and stuff happens. If you want a boring, reliable car, look away from Ferrari. This may sound really stupid but I enjoy learning and working on my cars as I do driving them. Aside from being stranded, I somewhat look forward to issues that I can sort. Yeah, I know I'm not normal
Yeah look at both our signitures

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here is an update from the follow up analysis. the trend continues with elevated copper and also titanium. any idea where the titanium could come from? are the valves ti!?
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Sean, the only Ti in the 550 engine that I'm aware of is the rods. I sure hope you're not getting any fretting/wearing in those!!!

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There is Ti in the F355 connecting rod....So Ti and copper in the oil could point to a potentially serious problem. However, I am not an expert in oil analysis, but would revert to one before tearing into this engine.

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Oil analysis is a very good tool ONLY if you have baseline.

List of engine component materials
Proper constant sampling method.
Proper records

So many folks do it later then before and you will always find something wrong your looking for in a single report.


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after more research it seems that <10ppm cu für 2k kms incl. track use is within expected "normal" wear. the ti is found in the fresh oil itself, so all should be good

I will keep doing frequent analysis (after every other track event) to see if anything is getting out of control.

if anyone else with a 550(or other model from that period) is thinking about an oil analysis, it would be great for cross reference. please post any reports.

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