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F12 wheels on 599

Hi all, first post here so be gentle.

I am in the market for a 599 (I think) but don't care for the pentagram wheels or the challenge style ones. I know the HGTE and GTO wheels are options, if I can find them. I am pretty sure Taz has commented that the F12 wheels would fit. I believe they are the same specs as the GTO wheels.

My question is, has anyone done it? Any pics? If not, I'll settle for opinions if anyone wants to share. I am thinking more the diamond cut style than the base model.

Also, would f12 wheels require special bolts?

Thanks, hoping to join the club soon,

Barry

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post #2 of 11 Old 03-13-2015, 11:07 AM
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Barry- Welcome to Ferrari Life. Should be no problem with F12 or GTO wheels fitting and standard 599 wheel bolts will work fine. There is a set of GTO wheels including titanium bolts for sale on Ferrari Chat for $8600. If you do not want the bolts, maybe they can be discounted.


Have not seen photos of a 599 with F12 wheels yet. Most owners prefer the GTO wheels. There is a new 5 thin spoke F12 wheel that is very attractive.


Probably best to buy the 599 first, but I sold a set of 575M wheels to someone hunting a Maranello. Some wheels are like money in the bank.




599/HGTE/SA Aperta

Five Spoke F 19”, R 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm


Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm


Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm


Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm


HGTE/SA Aperta Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm


Front 8.5J X 20 ET 40 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm


599 GTO

Five V/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm


Front 9.5J x 20” ET 38 mm, Rear 11.5J x 20” ET 63 mm


F12

Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm


Front 9.5J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 71.6 mm








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Yep I agree about the thin spoke f12 wheels, that's what I had in mind. I also think the 599 GTO wheels are the best match, it's just nice to know there are options out there if I cannot find a set.

One thing I am stumped about though, in the few months I have been reading the board, i thought some combination of car and wheels required the titanium bolts. If so, what was it? I could have swore it was 599 plus GTO wheels.

Also, any worry about the different offsets between the 599 wheels of all styles versus the f12?

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Barry- The offset differences are so small, they do not matter much. You should be able to use steel bolts on all those wheels. If you want them, used sets of titanium bolts show up all the time. I have them on my 575M and paid $750.

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I was hoping you would say that

Thanks Taz!
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Barry- The offset differences are so small, they do not matter much. You should be able to use steel bolts on all those wheels. If you want them, used sets of titanium bolts show up all the time. I have them on my 575M and paid $750.
Blimey Taz.
$750 for a set of bolts!
You are going to need locking bolts to protect the bolts
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Grant- Not too many folks wander the streets with a 17 mm hex drive socket, so I think the bolts are pretty safe. How much for a set of knock-offs for your Daytona?


The titanium bolts do decrease unsprung weight around 3 lbs. Plus they look cool.


Remember, I am the guy with the $20K brakes.





Titanium Wheel Bolt Weight 63.3 grams


Steel Wheel Bolt Weight 127.9 grams


20 Titanium Bolts 1266 grams/2.79 lbs


20 Steel Bolts 2558 grams/5.63 lbs


WeightSavings 2.85 lbs


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Barry- The offset differences are so small, they do not matter much. You should be able to use steel bolts on all those wheels. If you want them, used sets of titanium bolts show up all the time. I have them on my 575M and paid $750.


Terry,
you have the titanium bolts on your 575 for 750$?
Nice, did you have a detailed picture of the hub?

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Fabio- Here you go.
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Do you think it would be a good idea to just buy 4 for my car? I could not find locking wheel bolts anywhere for my HGTE wheels, so these would do the trick to put someone off. as you say Taz who take a 17mm hex drive socket with them?

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Fabio- Here you go.
Terry,
Very nice the Ti bolts, they make a race image !
Do you buy original Ferrari bolts from Rcambi A ?

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