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Fabio, sounding just like we'd hoped. Again very impressed with your efforts and what you've accomplished. Watching the continued R & D and hoping to be on your customer list.
Congratulations!
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thanks, sounding also just like I'd hoped...
I did lot of efforts and spent lot of money, i did a lots of equipment in order to help the construction, welding and to mantain a good tolerance for all the eventual future pieces, i had buy the bending machine to do the not ortogonal cones by myself, i had buy an esab plasma cut ...
You hoping to be on my customer list...?
I would delivery you by my self !!! ahahaah....
I never went in Florida and I and my wife would like to go .....

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Fabio- Sounds great.



Thanks Terry ....

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Fabio, when your sun visor starts to sag down and won't stay up you have a free fix coming from Maranello Skunkworks as a "thank you" for all you have done.

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Best Sound ever on a Maranello ! You did it, Fabio !! Congrats ! Exactly what you wanted to accomplish ! I'm impressed.

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thanks for too many compliments ....
It was an hard work, but the sound result has paid me .....
When i have think to do this system for the maranello, i dreamed ... and i take some risks, i did the pieces and spent money before that i'm sure the manifold will be in place on engine ...!!
Yesterday with engine hood open, i look the manifolds and i thinked "Fabio you did a little miracle to be able to put those manifolds system in such a short space"


p.s.: imagine an exhaust system like my on your F 50 ...... F1 of Alain Prost sound.....

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Fabio I've been watching your progress in stunned silence at what you have tried and succeeded in doing. Congratulation and the very best of luck.....I think you will fill an order book very quickly with results like you have achieved.

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i have uploaded just now a video from inside the car.

http://youtu.be/O5m9UOVhGQA
So impressed - clearly usable on a daily basis! Amazing
How long would you need to produce a set?
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Fabio I've been watching your progress in stunned silence at what you have tried and succeeded in doing. Congratulation and the very best of luck.....I think you will fill an order book very quickly with results like you have achieved.

Cheers
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Michael,
Thanks for the compliments, and for the luck, i appreciate a lot!
It is a project that I really wanted.
There is only one thing that not is good, a person that i hoped to listening the sound, now it's gone, but is the life ....

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Your father, Fabio.......he would have loved that sound for sure !
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So impressed - clearly usable on a daily basis! Amazing
How long would you need to produce a set?

I did the pieces for three set of manifolds, one for my 575, one sold without catalyzer for a 550 (i will finish in two weeks), the third manifold (perhaps sold, i will have confirm on next 2 week) is ready to assembly and weld, but about catalyzers i buyed only the two for my exhaust, they are expensive, are the same quality of those used from Ferrari, maserati or Porsche, the cats delivery time is approx 3-4 weeks.
For complete the third i need 5/8 weeks, because i not weld by myself but i go from a welding company, they take time, every time that i go to laser cut company for my pieces they take one or two weeks..... For this reason i need some weeks.
To do others, i need to buy the material, will machining, and i think i need other 4 weeks, tomorrow i will speak with my suppliers ...

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Fabio, great stuff ! That is exactly how I drive everyday (just kidding).

Now with that kind of setup, you have no choice but to drive like that ! Thanx for sharing.

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Bill,
thanks, sounding also just like I'd hoped...
I did lot of efforts and spent lot of money, i did a lots of equipment in order to help the construction, welding and to mantain a good tolerance for all the eventual future pieces, i had buy the bending machine to do the not ortogonal cones by myself, i had buy an esab plasma cut ...
You hoping to be on my customer list...?
I would delivery you by my self !!! ahahaah....
I never went in Florida and I and my wife would like to go .....
Re Florida, Anytime Fabio!
I'd suggest the last part of January any year for a travel time. In South Fla. the Cavallino takes place with many of those same cars hitting Palm Beach International Raceway during the long weekend. Always too on that same weekend is the "24 Hours of Daytona" at the Speedway and a major car auction takes place just south of Orlando. All an easy drive from Orlando or Daytona. Biggest problem for me is how to be in multiple places at one time.
Temperatures can be cool to cold this time of year although with temps warming up we rarely see cold anymore.
Please don't hesitate if I can help and would enjoy the company.
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Fabio, may I add to the others on this thread in saying bravo bravissimo on these headers! It sounds exactly like I would like my Maranello to sound. Exactly.

Will be anxiously awaiting pricing information from you as I hope to be able to replace my headers and factory catalyzers with your setup, into my Bradan straight pipes on my 550.

Complimenti!!
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Fabio- Think about a set in 321 for me. I want them bulletproof and still perfect when I die, hopefully of old age.

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I'd go with 321 for the primaries then have the headers ceramic coated on the inside only. I don't care for the appearance of ceramic coatings on the exterior unless its flat black or flat grey but coating on the inside helps with gas flow and has some heat radiation benefits.

I would also be very careful in my choice of who did the coating. I've seen some really crap jobs.

This is not to say that 304 isn't adequate for street only use but if you want the best material for what is obviously the best headers available them 321 would be my choice.

I expect the difference in cost of 321 over 304 would be a small percentage of the overall price. In for a penny, in for a pound, as they say.

Unfortunately in California we have a problem with uncertified exhaust components even when they are demonstratively superior to OEM, that said, I really ache for a set.

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Inconel? Titanium?
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Nope, too expensive and titanium is tougher to weld than SS. Plus good SS is tougher than titanium.

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Fabio, may I add to the others on this thread in saying bravo bravissimo on these headers! It sounds exactly like I would like my Maranello to sound. Exactly.

Will be anxiously awaiting pricing information from you as I hope to be able to replace my headers and factory catalyzers with your setup, into my Bradan straight pipes on my 550.

Complimenti!!
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Hi Pete,
thanks, too compliments ..
In case, you would like for your 550 a cat version or no-cat version?

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Fabio- Think about a set in 321 for me. I want them bulletproof and still perfect when I die, hopefully of old age.
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Nope, too expensive and titanium is tougher to weld than SS. Plus good SS is tougher than titanium.
Hello Terry,
Also I would have preferred use AISI 321, but i not be able to find, specially my dimension 38.1 Thk. 1.2, i'm checking from months to some suppliers in italy and i finded only 40x1.5 but is a remaining of stock and is pipe, not are bends ...
They told me that can produce a stock only for me but how many tons ...???
Probably if i go to F1 exhaust company i find it, but which price..?
For precision my is 304L (low carbon), is little bit better than normal 304, (i spoke with a technician that work in Ducati, and confirm me that 321 is better but 304 L is a good compromise), the problem of those steel is the potential interstitial corrosion due to the termal stress hot cold, in the grade 304L this risk is less.
My supplier is supplier also for one exhaust builder and him told to the my supplier that for him also other company use 304 .... would true? ...
You are sure that other builders use 321, for the eyes both 304 & 321 are the same, the only system to know the type is to cut a piece and do a analysis.
I would do a prototype in Titanium, also if it is more expensive and some times have problem of crak, but is nice to see and very light, inconel probably would good, but is not easy to find every dimensions.
For last, i'm very happy of the my results, i think is a little miracle to insert 6-1 manifold plus a big cat in the little space of maranello engine compartment, you not forget, without any modifcation of the car (most important thing for me), not even ECU, and perfectly fit to the original central pipes.
About the little space of engine compartment, is interesting note that all 550 of 575 that raced (Prodrive, NTechnology or other ..) the have shifted the steering box in front of the engine and removed the steering column from the original location, also the starter engine was shifted, in this way their exhaust system was a more free design ... (see pictures)
Modify the design of my headers for another pipe diameter is like redesign all, including part of equipments ....
The first test is progress on my 575, the second will be on the 550 of my first client that will be go on track ...
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Fabio, back in the day, I had a friend over in Austin TX who did six cylinder turbo headers in 321 SS for the Supra community. I'll try to contact them and see if he would share his source of 321 tubing with me, and if so, I'll pass it along to you. They were beautiful headers, and had some very complicated bends.

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