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post #1 of 17 Old 06-28-2014, 10:16 AM Thread Starter
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Big Scare for 135171, GTE Engineering Contact Info

Picked up my 575M from my techs yesterday after its annual service ($936 including installing CF handbrake trim). Did not get more than 200 yards from the shop when the F1 warning lamp came on and she would go to neutral when shifting up from 2nd gear. Limped back to the shop and Aaron and John (La Scuderia) hooked up an OBDII reader (no SDx) and got a code of 1740. Naturally, this was not in the diagnosis codes Ferrari published. With no SD2 available, it was starting to look like a flatbed ride to Boardwalk was in the works. Lower than a snake's navel, went home and went out to dinner for my biweekly 3 beers, which I needed.

This morning, got a call from Aaron. He and John had done a thorough inspection of all the F1 connectors. One of the shifter solenoids, nowhere near where they had done any work, had worked itself loose. Once connected properly, everyting was back to normal.

I called and e-mailed Serkan at GTE Engineering, where he now rebuilds F1 actuators and services exotics, before Aaron and John found the loose connector. Serkan was kind enough to run me through some diagnostics, which luckily proved unnecessary. Looks like he will be a great addition to the Ferrari community. Contact info below and his sub-$3K actuator rebuild service is a whole lot cheaper than buying a new one.

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561 NE 26th Ct
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http://www.gte-engineering.com
E-Mail [email protected]
TEL 1 (754) 205 0812 M-F 9am|5pm

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Picked up my 575M from my techs yesterday after its annual service ($936 including installing CF handbrake trim). Did not get more than 200 yards from the shop when the F1 warning lamp came on and she would go to neutral when shifting up from 2nd gear. Limped back to the shop and Aaron and John (La Scuderia) hooked up an OBDII reader (no SDx) and got a code of 1740. Naturally, this was not in the diagnosis codes Ferrari published. With no SD2 available, it was starting to look like a flatbed ride to Boardwalk was in the works. Lower than a snake's navel, went home and went out to dinner for my biweekly 3 beers, which I needed.

This morning, got a call from Aaron. He and John had done a thorough inspection of all the F1 connectors. One of the shifter solenoids, nowhere near where they had done any work, had worked itself loose. Once connected properly, everyting was back to normal.

I called and e-mailed Serkan at GTE Engineering, where he now rebuilds F1 actuators and services exotics, before Aaron and John found the loose connector. Serkan was kind enough to run me through some diagnostics, which luckily proved unnecessary. Looks like he will be a great addition to the Ferrari community. Contact info below and his sub-$3K actuator rebuild service is a whole lot cheaper than buying a new one.

Serkan Ozsacasci
GTE Engineering LLC
561 NE 26th Ct
Pompano Beach, 33064 FL
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http://www.gte-engineering.com
E-Mail [email protected]
TEL 1 (754) 205 0812 M-F 9am|5pm

Terry, i know exactly about your feelings before the 3 beers!!!! Glad all went well finally!
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212- Affirmative, the ride to Dallas would have been around $2K, so that was a relief.

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Whew ...! Close call. Do not drink beer myself but fully appreciate the anxiety.

Glad it worked out beautifully, Terry.

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Jimmy- I cannot really afford her, so it was nice to get a break.

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Taz, Glad it all worked out OK. Those are not fun moments.
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Terry - makes me wonder how many times other shops spend money first and fix the real problem later.

It's good to know about GTE.
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That certainly would have had my heart pumping, glad it worked out well for you Terry

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Aaron and John at Lascuderia deserve a pat on the back for being real mechanics and not just part changers. This is typical of their work.

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Glad they found it. There's nothing worse than the problem going away and you fear driving it for chance of getting stuck. Great price on the annual as well.
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Good news! Glad it was simple. All the best.

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I have become a bit of an expert through my mishaps, did you mean shifter solenoid or potentiometer?

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Vafa- I said shifter solenoid, but probably should have said potentiometer.

Unfortunately my F1 lamp is still lit and it has transmitted a bit to the Motronic ECU that set the CEL and an undocumented 1740 F1 code. Naturally, just when I needed an inspection for an emissions test. Everything works fine, but starting to look like I need an SD2 to reset the F1 lamp and get rid of the CEL. The CEL did go out for a short period of time after an OBDII tester reset.

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Glad things worked out well Taz but I'm yearning for the old days. And you being one of these car's experts! Remember the simplicity? Carby, fuel line, coil, distributor etc. This is 'anti tech' appears to my theme for this evening. Take car and I'll raise you three beers!

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David- It took me less than 5 minutes on my Daytona to pull a distributor and only another 15 minutes to replace and time two sets of points. The WSM told you how to build a distributor test machine that used a simple test light and a degree wheel on top. Told you how to time them, set dwell, and when the points lift block was too worn to reuse a set of points. The good old days.

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I'm very close to buying a texa. Sales rep came out and did a demo today.
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Shiv- Stef has one and found it did most of what was needed and was missing only a few items. Let us know what you think and how much they run.

I was really hoping Duram Plummer would come through for us, but it does not look good right now. We were going to be Beta testers for the 550/575M unit.

Aaron and John at La Scuderia found an F1 reset procedure in the 360 WSM I am hoping will work for my 575M, even though that procedure was for F1 on Motronic 7.3 and not 7.1.1. I got it to partially work today (she beeped at me) and hope tomorrow will be the magic charm once I integrate the beep into the procedure. It worked on a 360 they had where they replaced an F1 hose. If it works, I will do an improved write-up compared to what is in the WSM.

Aaron got the CEL to go off long enough for me to pass emissions, so one problem eliminated. Next time I started her, the CEL was back on, but now I have 2 years to solve the problem. Except for the lamps and the 1740 code (bad ground in the F1 system, since fixed), she drives as perfectly as always. I may try a master reset, even though that is not supposed to work on F1 problems.

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